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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Isn’t it obvious that any manager in any team, sport or job full stop that lasts more than 2 years has clearly done enough of a good job though?
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    Kevin Keegan's career routinely demonstrated the opposite to be true
     
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  3. The RDBD

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    Who said anything about a "good job" (whatever that actually means) ??

    The numbers are in

    At the end of their second season, good Spurs managers
    will demonstrate significant upwards progression from their
    predecessor(s) .

    Those who are not, will be found wanting by then (some well before) .
     
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  4. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Becuase if they not been sacked or resigned after two years then it’s obvious they’ve done a good job.

    You don’t need to call it a law of 2 years to make it sound like something you’ve researched <laugh>
     
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  5. The RDBD

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    Again, "good job" mentioned (without a precise definition) .


    "You don’t need to call it a law of 2 years to make it sound like something you’ve researched"

    Looking at 40 odd yrs of data on Spurs managers in
    order to discern things of interest/note is a part of what
    is called ... research.
     
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  6. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    You don’t need to look at data to know any manager that lasts 2 years in a single job has done a good job.

    Anyone who hasn’t doesn’t make the 2 year mark.

    Hope that clears it up for you.
     
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  7. The RDBD

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    Again, "good job" (without any actual definition of it
    or any relevance to what I have stated) .

    As the basic concept I have stated appears to be
    beyond your understanding, I suggest you don't
    comment whenever you see comments relating to it.
     
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  8. KingHotspur

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  9. Spurf

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    Can you two please remember our ground rules
     
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  10. KingHotspur

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    I’m just messing with him. Reading back I see how it could be seen as ‘personal’ so I won’t say anymore
     
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  11. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Solomon's completed his Leeds loan so should be announced soon. Leaves just Reguilon and Lo Celso as the definite unwanted players left, think in some capacity they will go too in this final week.

    Partly wonder if one or two will join them as well, especially if we do bring in someone else as they'll almost certainly need to take someone's place in the Europa squad unless they're a returning CG player.

    Davies and Werner have potentially jumped to the top of that list after Bissouma showing yesterday we really do rely on him when his head's switched on. Davies is now seemingly third choice in his favoured position and Werner seems to have been usurped already by Odobert, which just further highlights what a pointless decision it was to re-sign him on loan again, I'd imagine if we cancelled his deal we'd incur a fee to Leipzig but it'd probably be worth it if it meant opening a spot for someone potentially more useful.
     
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  12. KingHotspur

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    Squad is looking quite lean, the wage bill must be a lot lower than it was before even though the club have spent significant money on fees since Ange took over.
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    Wouldn't surprise me if the combined wages of Bergvall, Gray and Odobert comes to at most 2/3 of the £120k base salary Nom Belly was waddling out the door with every week
     
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  14. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    We’re at full stretch for Europa unless we re-sign any former CG players. HG and Non-HG quotas are both full.

    Yeah wage bill is definitely lighter.

    So if Ange wants a new signing or two in this final week, one or two will have to make way in Europa to accommodate them and if we do that, you’d imagine they’d likely be sold as well as there’d be almost zero football on offer.
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

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    We've got the best part of £700k a week off our wage bill this window
    Perisic - £180k
    Ndombele - £120k
    Dier - £100k
    Emerson - £75k
    Sessegnon - £60k
    Skipp - £50k
    Tanganga - £35k
    Rodon - £35k
    Parrott - £20k

    Even if you figure in the wages we're paying Solanke, Odobert, Bergvall and Gray we're still probably £500k a week better off, with another £180k a week likely to be recouped presuming Lo Celso and Reguilon leave by the end of the window
     
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  16. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Use some of it on new deals for Son and Romero ideally, as well as pay rises for the likes of van de Ven and Porro too who've been very impressive and deserve to be amongst our top earners. Albeit I do have a bad feeling this might be our last season with Romero if we don't win anything.
     
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  17. KingHotspur

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    Solomon too. Any idea how much he was on?
     
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  18. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    What they earn is obscene.
    Parrott on £1m per year
    Rodon and Tanganga on £1.75m per year
    Skipp on £2.5m per year
    Sessengon on £3m per year
    Royal on £3.75m per year
    Dier on £5m per yer
    Ndombellybuster £6m per year
    Perisic on £9m per year

    Not one of them lit up the WHL let alone the Premier league.

    Heard some journalist saying that you can't blame Toney going to Saudi because it's life changing money.

    He is currently on over £1.8m per year and has a net worth of over £9m ... like seriously...If he stayed at Brentford on the same wage for the rest of his career (he's 27) ... maybe 5 yrs he'll get another £9m. That's without endorsements etc.

    I know the argument re going rate etc but
    Seriously ... how much more money does any one need?

    Rant over
     
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  19. humanbeingincroydon

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    £55k

    Hojbjerg's on £110k, for that matter
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    As I've long said, there is such a thing as not enough money - but no such thing as too much money

    Case in point...
     
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