Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction

Bale was dreaming of RM from youth, if you believe what he has often said, he always wanted to play for them from his childhood. We just didn't know.

If you knew, would you have rather have not signed him? Seriously?

 

How many boyhood clubs did Robbie Keane have again?

 

These entitled f*(%kers!!

You know what, I'd love for Levy and co. to clear out the dead wood and then go in for Grealish in this very window, just for the heck of it. Even if it doesn't bare fruit.

Just put a bid in. To let Man City know that Spurs aren't here to just roll over and donate players to them.

 

It's more a case of, "This move suits both of us very well", in my opinion.
Haaland's dream club is actually Leeds.

 

….yet he still did his best work with us and is still regarded as a Spurs legend. Would you rather we didn't sign him too?

I really don't understand this logic.

 

It really isn't, as he (or, to be more accurate, his agent...) are clearly treating Dortmund as a stepping stone given how they were practically saying what his release clause was and when it would be active during his unveiling

And what happened when Boyhood Club No1 Saltypool clicked their fingers? He left us without a second's thought

Not to be confused with Boyhood Club No2 Celtic, who we loaned him to after his stint at Boyhood Club No1 did not pan out so he came crawling back to us

More importantly, your example of Bale makes no sense: he was signed from second tier Southampton, which is hardly the same as a player at Sevilla or Dortmund who has already drawn up a particularly short list of clubs he is willing to join, which would make him very easy to tap up if those clubs just so happened to not want the other children to play with "their" toys

 

If it's a MK 1 Lotus you can have my mother in laws house , give me a couple of hours to book her into a local travel lodge

 

3 letters begins with W and ends with G?

 

Yup

Australians: managing to be really, really racist without even trying

 

And that suits Dortmund and their business model.
They buy upcoming, young players with potential and sell them on at a substantial profit.
It's their best-case scenario and it's what's happened with Sancho and Pulisic.
Haaland and Bellingham will almost certainly join them in the future.

The alternative is for them to run down their contracts and join Bayern on a free.
I'm sure they'd prefer not to strengthen their biggest rivals and miss out on a transfer fee, too.

 

Let's be honest.

• Firstly if Tottenham were of similar stature to Liverpool or Real Madrid at the time when these players were itching their feet, and we were competing at similar levels, they would have had more to think about when leaving.

• Secondly, Levy did his best to sell these players in a way that benefited the progress of the club. We have been rising in stature, and financial power, somewhat steadily since these particular players left.

• Thirdly, both of these players left after serving the club very well. I ask again, would you rather we didn't sign them at all? You still haven't answered this simple question. Bale is definitely relevant to the point. Where he was bought from is irrelevant.

• Fourthly, as we are hopefully about to find out with Kane, Levy will make sure that contractually Tottenham benefit from any future sale. Either the timing will be right for us, or the fee will be, or ideally both. What is the problem? (Or we'll be doing so well that he doesn't want to leave!)

• Fifthly, the more top class players we have, the more chance that we will be seen as other players dream club as we progress in competitions and win the hearts of upcoming players and fans. That's just how it works. This guy wants to go to Real because they win things and have the best players. So let's start having the best players. Then hopefully we start winning things.

 

Realistically it doesn't, though

Dortmund's model is based on players being there 3-4 years before they leave, for example Sancho's stint was 2017-21, Pulisic 2016-19, Gundogan 2011-16, Mkhitaryan 2013-16, Hummels 2009-16 etc etc so not only are they around to move the team forwards, but they establish themselves during their time at the team which is how Dortmund can ask for the large fees

Haaland, on the other hand, arrived from G Fuel Vienna and announced what his agent's fee would be in two years before he'd even kicked a ball, which doesn't fit into Dortmund's business model - it fits into the business model of Chelsea or PSG as they know they can buy a player the rest of their league can't

 

Let's be honest, when we bid for Gareth Bale did he turn our offer down because he was waiting for a bid from Los Ladrones?

No? Because that is what Kounde did two weeks ago

Can you see the difference?

 

They'll treble their money on him and they'll have got a couple of good seasons out of him.
He scored 40 goals last time and that was enough to get them back into the Champions League.
They knew exactly what was going to happen when they signed him.

 

Who wouldn't want to sign a player like that makes perfect business sense.

Get plenty of production and make plenty of profit. What's not to like

 

And sell him to a club from outside of your league, while preventing your rivals from signing him.
If he hadn't have joined Dortmund, then it was highly likely that he'd have gone to Leipzig.

 

So giving Toby an extended contract seems to have made us £10m. What a silly idea that was.....

 

If Toby goes it will feel like the end of an era , him and Jan in 16/17 season really were the best defensive pair I've seen at the Lane ,only 9 conceded at home
Good luck to him in the future , I will miss those 60yrd cross field passes

 

And that's the issue, what they effectively did when they signed him was make themselves what Porto, Valencia and Wolves have all been at various points in the last decade - a shop window for an agent first, a team second

And here's the other thing with that: based on their business model they were already flush that season, because that summer they spent the Pulisic cash on Brandt, Hazard and re-signing Hummels, but also had plenty in the coffers from selling Diallo to PSG, Alcacer to Villarreal, Weigl to Benfica and Philipp to Dynamo Moscow - and it has to be said that they still have most of that cash in their coffers even now, as what they paid for Bellingham last summer and Kobel this summer is offset by the Alcacer and Weigl fees, so they had at least €50m kicking about before selling Sancho this summer

In other words, while at the time they signed Haaland it seemed like it would fit in their business model (even though it fits Mino "****" Raiola's far, far better than it fits theirs) at this point of time he's a timebomb on their business model because he's leaving next summer and, unlike Dembele who they were able to jack up the fee to ridiculous levels when Barca came for him after a season, they have no room to negotiate

And it has to be said Haaland wasn't the only example of this that season either, as Hakimi being loaned in was also a bad fit for Dortmund's model since all that would ever happen is Los Ladrones would either have a player ready for their first team, or an increased profit when they sold him (as happened) based off his time at Dortmund

 

I see a difference, but so small that it is irrelevant.

He is a player of higher value than Bale was when we got him, and he knows it, hence he feels closer to his dream.

Let's see how much of a difference there is at the end of the window if Real Madrid don't come in for him. At that point, the difference would be non-existent.

That is all I'm saying.