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[InBiscanWeTrust]

Birmingham were happy to sell him as they got a payday which would help the continue to exist as a club . Bellinghams agent and family had identified a move to Germany as the best way to progress his development and were not really open to him moving to a top english club as they didn't think he would get enough game time .

I think his contract was coming to and end soon as well but they publicly said wouldnt leave on a free as didn’t want Birmingham to miss out on any pay day.

 

[Solid Air]

I think his contract was coming to and end soon as well but they publicly said wouldnt leave on a free as didn’t want Birmingham to miss out on any pay day.

yep his family were insistent that the club deserved a decent pay off for their work developing him .

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

I just looked back at a post I made last year containing a link to an article by Daniel Geey, sports lawyer, about agent's fees. This was the conclusion:

It’s pretty clear that the way that agents/intermediaries are paid at present is rather complicated. Many believe that the way athletes, say, in the US pay their agents directly is the more straight forward model. However, the current club and player incentives are somewhat misaligned with a combination of:

1. agents commission not being a deductible expense for players; and
2. clubs presumably preferring to pay the player’s agent as a benefit to the player rather than provide more in gross salary to the player.

The more complicated structures, as set out above, will likely remain set in stone until some type of football or HMRC intervention. Whilst such an approach is unlikely to change anytime soon, there is big regulatory conflict on the horizon with likely challenge of FIFA’s commission cap. These authors wouldn’t be surprised if this, if not marketed as such, is FIFA’s opening negotiation offer to the various agency representation groups with the ultimate aim of agreeing a capped compromise. FIFA negotiating with the master negotiators promises to make for an interesting next few months.

I have to agree with this approach but i do feel like everyone else that its outrageous that agents get a huge payment to allow his player move club. the agent doesn't do anything but they have developed this role as intermediaries between clubs and taking a massive slice of the pie.... so now they need compo to stop???

It's all wrong.

Agent = get best deal, do commerical deals for player. (in my head)
Today's reality = Get best deal for agent, act for selling club, act for player, take a cut everywhere.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

I have to agree with this approach but i do feel like everyone else that its outrageous that agents get a huge payment to allow his player move club. the agent doesn't do anything but they have developed this role as intermediaries between clubs and taking a massive slice of the pie.... so now they need compo to stop???

It's all wrong.

Agent = get best deal, do commerical deals for player. (in my head)
Today's reality = Get best deal for agent, act for selling club, act for player, take a cut everywhere.

I agree with you.

Sometimes I long for the days when we didn't know how much a player earned, how much their agents got or whether they even had an agent. We're living in an age of information overload.

 

[Milk..]

Saw a stat the other day that were the fourth most profitable club now. Don't know if that's true.

If we can stay that profitable, in the long run it will help us financially compete. For now, we pay from what we earn, and we've got expensive stadium expansion costs coming out of our earnings that could be going to wages and transfers.

Five years from now, if we're still in the frame, it will benefit us immensely. Right now its a little bit of a weight around our neck.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

I agree with you.

Sometimes I long for the days when we didn't know how much a player earned, how much their agents got or whether they even had an agent. We're living in an age of information overload.

I don't actually know when agents became a thing; like that spiv in the 90s with the big cigar going about shouting MONSTA MONSTA. I don't know if it was a thing in the 80s or started in earnest in the 90s?

 

[johnsonsbaby]

I don't actually know when agents became a thing; like that spiv in the 90s with the big cigar going about shouting MONSTA MONSTA. I don't know if it was a thing in the 80s or started in earnest in the 90s?

Done a bit of research. Although intermediaries have always acted on behalf of footballers, the professional title of agent came about in 1991 when FIFA established the first official licensing system.

 

[SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING]

Done a bit of research. Although intermediaries have always acted on behalf of footballers, the professional title of agent came about in 1991 when FIFA established the first official licensing system.

aha so the most corrupt people in football spawn the….well, most corrupt people in football…

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

The press seem quite disinterested in going after Southgate yet and are totally disinterested in the Germany game so there's a lot of rumour stuff like Bellingham to city.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

one for the conspiracy nuts.


The club has released a fake story about new contract for Naby Anderton stating that it is very confident he will sign.

this is to worry dortmund who are interested in the player and we will add keita as a little sweetener for a January transfer as the required is 85mil upfront all at once to trigger this famous transfer clause. A player swap helps LFC's infamous cash flow issues.

So you get 3 stories in one there.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

I'm going to start repeating this ad nausem now.

I think I said it first on one of the other threads but now the telegraph is reporting it.

Bellingham to chelsea.

No ffp cares, no debt cares til this owner finally realises and every shiny bauble must be his.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

I'm going to start repeating this ad nausem now.

I think I said it first on one of the other threads but now the telegraph is reporting it.

Bellingham to chelsea.

No ffp cares, no debt cares til this owner finally realises and every shiny bauble must be his.

Let's face it every club will want Bellingham. If he's not money motivated then he will have the pick of where he wants to go for the second time in his career so far. Whichever club he chooses it will say a lot about his character. Just on the PL clubs - city is the obvious choice for instant success or will he fancy living in London or will he want to play for Klopp and push himself and us to topple city?

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Let's face it every club will want Bellingham. If he's not money motivated then he will have the pick of where he wants to go for the second time in his career so far. Whichever club he chooses it will say a lot about his character. Just on the PL clubs - city is the obvious choice for instant success or will he fancy living in London or will he want to play for Klopp and push himself and us to topple city?

Yes this is true but only a select few.can pay the top money.

Right now city are not really in the picture. Chelsea firmly are.

Real are not in the picture either as its this simple: camavinga and touchameni. (Leave the old men like Kross and modric out) real Madrid are well sorted for cm, so if you see right about him wanting to play then going there is a big risk

Barca who knows. Again you look and see pedri and gavi in his position so it's so unlikely that they would be in.

So then there's man utd who are infamously stupid with money and tin hat wants de jong so the cash is going there.

So if we happened to be in (86mil straight cash) then city can easily match that and cheslea certainly will and then both clubs will offer the earth in wages. 350k min. 400k.

So will lfc match those wages?

 

[Red Hadron Collider]

Yes this is true but only a select few.can pay the top money.

Right now city are not really in the picture. Chelsea firmly are.

Real are not in the picture either as its this simple: camavinga and touchameni. (Leave the old men like Kross and modric out) real Madrid are well sorted for cm, so if you see right about him wanting to play then going there is a big risk

Barca who knows. Again you look and see pedri and gavi in his position so it's so unlikely that they would be in.

So then there's man utd who are infamously stupid with money and tin hat wants de jong so the cash is going there.

So if we happened to be in (86mil straight cash) then city can easily match that and cheslea certainly will and then both clubs will offer the earth in wages. 350k min. 400k.

So will lfc match those wages?

No

 

[johnsonsbaby]

Yes this is true but only a select few.can pay the top money.

Right now city are not really in the picture. Chelsea firmly are.

Real are not in the picture either as its this simple: camavinga and touchameni. (Leave the old men like Kross and modric out) real Madrid are well sorted for cm, so if you see right about him wanting to play then going there is a big risk

Barca who knows. Again you look and see pedri and gavi in his position so it's so unlikely that they would be in.

So then there's man utd who are infamously stupid with money and tin hat wants de jong so the cash is going there.

So if we happened to be in (86mil straight cash) then city can easily match that and cheslea certainly will and then both clubs will offer the earth in wages. 350k min. 400k.

So will lfc match those wages?

If the fee is £80m-90m ish I think it's doable. We won't be offering mega wages though and if that's what it comes down to, no matter how much Klopp wants him, he won't be held to ransom. I think integrity and character are top of the requirements after skill obviously.

 

[Tiresias]

Football players and integrity...
After taking the knee they'll all be clambering to get to Qatar.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

Football players and integrity...
After taking the knee they'll all be clambering to get to Qatar.

You're right of course but we've already got players taking coin from the same despotic regimes on a monthly basis with more players clambering to sign for them. Raheem Sterling was "shining a spotlight on racism" while living off the proceeds from one of the countries with the worst human rights records, including racism. Not a single person calling out the hypocrisy. He was praised to the sky. We're living in strange times and things are getting weirder by the day.

 

[Gerrardsitchyear]

Bellingham seems to have his head screwed on. He'll want to go to the club that offers him the best chance to further develop, win things and enhance his standings in the England set-up. If the club looks unstable he won't go.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Money talks: Bellingham to Chelsea

 

[Germlands Nozzer]

Bellingham seems to have his head screwed on. He'll want to go to the club that offers him the best chance to further develop, win things and enhance his standings in the England set-up. If the club looks unstable he won't go.

Money talks: Bellingham to Chelsea

I agree with @Gerrardsitchyear , I don't think it's just about the money with Bellingham and I think he would be cautious about going there right now. I think we would be the better fit right now, unless things stabilise there. But if City are in for him...