He is by me and that should be good enough in my humble opinion!!
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He is by me and that should be good enough in my humble opinion!!
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Got the PL quickest hat-trick from that position for Saints too
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The goal is for Jobe to tell Jude how sunny it is in Merseyside and to come win a quadruple with him next year.
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Have to say that I have very mixed feelings about this stuff.
On the one hand its a very cut throat professional set up where the mutual benefit results in a short term deal for both parties. 1 in 100 kids might get a pro contract. the other 99 get no loyalty from clubs do they?
On the other i fail to see why Birmingham or any club should bother work with youths at all if they and their agents and parents will **** them over after investing time and money in their development
I am of the opinion that Jude "overrated" bellingham specifically went to dortmund to get the get out clauses but to also get the biggest possible short term wage due to him being totally free to dortmund.
I just think that if we want a strong youth development ethos we need to go do more for the clubs we are allowing get absolutely done over left and right.
LFC have screwed over derby on kaide gordan, twice. we paid a small fee with sell on when we poached him and now took advantage of their plight by playing very little to break it.
Birmingham are 20th in the championship, this lads played 2 games as a sub for them. he won't sign a pro deal. no such thing as risking development or wages by staying so i am very sure he will follow the brother to germany and we are just being used as a stalking horse for that deal.
Overall there are no innocent parties in this but birmingham as the club in need are the ones most screwed over as they get nothing for their efforts.
Pep says everyone in England is a Liverpool fan. So surely Birmingham and other Championship clubs will be thrilled to see us take their players for nothing.
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Wonder if it’s not matter of time before see someone kind of rule where can’t buy players under age if 18. Would stop poaching at lower level. Not sure how would manage it though as essentially any stop of transfer is just stopping players freedom of movement?
Proper compensation - say minimum of £5m for all players under 18? Not sure how realistic that would be.
Proper compensation - say minimum of £5m for all players under 18? Not sure how realistic that would be.
If we do get him, will the rival fans stop telling jokes about how Scousers need to go get a Jobe?
As i have explained before Bellingham helped Brum get £23m from Dortmund as he wanted to make sure they did alright out of it plus he, his agent and parents thought Dortmund was the best place for him to progress his career as he would play at the top level i.e. Bundeslegia and CL regularly which was less likely in a team such as us .
the issue then is a family might want to move for jobs or there might be a nasty sort at a club as a coach or whatever reason so there has to be some means to allow a child move between clubs but not an elite talent thats doing it for money.
I don't really know who to solve that. in the endif a lad is on an u8s for LFC and ends up at u14s let go then he has a right to go to everton if they want him. but if a lad goes at u8s to u12s and hates it there and wants to go to everton u14s then is that really a fee situation?
we know sterling cost us 500k at 15 or something of qpr? was it QPR? we need to be protecting kids on one hand, then allowing some sort of fair compensation on the other.
It'd be grossly unfair to allow a scenario where every up and coming kid was hoover-able up but man city or chelsea (as examples)
In general no transfer before age 18 should in theory work but at each age gap 18, 17 (pro forms) 16, 14, 12... they are all either retained, let go or can walk. what we really want is to stop family dragging them off for money or clubs hanging on to get a pound of flesh. not easy.
QPR got nearly £10m in the end due to a sell on clause put in place by the compo tribunal .
there is that argument for sure given he was 18 at the time and could get the move, this lad is jumping even sooner for every little reason.
you would wonder as in fairness to him it "worked out" but theres many an example of people vanishing without a trace trying it on. where would birminham and bellingham be this year without the move? Bellingham wouldn't be england player but would birmingham just be upper midtbale or even that?
who knows.
in the end bobby duncan comes to mind. its all a risk i suppose.
which they ewould not get if he moved to germany... for example.
so thats the only protection you get in england.
a good step might be fifa banning totally all transfers for any u18 between countries?