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I have to blame Karius for not giving us the option of changing the keeper. If he had stayed longer before continuing with the
game after the collision with Ramos, team doctor should had come in to examine him.
 
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Jürgen Klopp has spoken for the first time about the concussion Loris Karius sustained in the Champions League final defeat by Real Madrid in May.

The goalkeeper returned to Melwood on Monday to begin pre-season training with Liverpool and is likely to figure in Saturday’s friendly encounter with Chester FC.

Asked whether he feels he has to do anything differently in terms of managing Karius ahead of 2018-19, Klopp told Liverpoolfc.com: “It’s all normal here. I don’t know exactly what people think or made of the situation. The only thing I can say is he had a concussion in the game.

“Whoever had a concussion knows there is not one way how it feels, there are different ways. He didn’t feel it obviously. He had a knock on his head and he felt that but he didn’t know he had a concussion. That’s how concussions are. The guy who has it is the last one to be aware of it probably.

“With all the intensity of the game, adrenaline and the disappointment after the game, nobody really thought about that. I needed a few days, to be honest, to accept the fact and deal with the situation [of losing the final]. It was not that easy.

“After four days I got a call from Franz Beckenbauer, our Bobby Moore, our biggest football player who is a good friend of mine. He called me and said he came from a doctor, he told me: ‘your goalkeeper had a concussion.’ I said, ‘what?’ because in the game, from my position that situation is not very good to see: ‘maybe there was contact or not.’ I told him immediately, ‘OK’. He said the doctor is the most famous doctor in Germany. I said: ‘OK, give me a few minutes, I have to fix a few things.’

“I got all the pictures from different perspectives, saw it and thought: ‘how can we all think that the boy who didn’t show any weakness in that game until then made these big mistakes in a very important game and nobody thinks it’s because of the knock he got?’ How can we think that? That was, for me, the explanation and I thought: ‘OK, come on, we need to check that.’

“I thought it was too late, you cannot check that. But now I know a concussion isn’t coming and going in a day – if you have one, you see it days later. Five days after the final, Loris had 26 of 30 markers for a concussion still. That’s clear.

“If you ask Loris, he says he didn’t think about it and didn’t use it for a second as an excuse. We don’t use it as an excuse, we use it as an explanation. That’s always important, that’s what analysis should be: you explain why things happen. So, from this point of view, from my side everything is fine. We don’t think about that anymore and we start completely new.”

Now back at Melwood and preparing for the season ahead, Klopp insists the Champions League final must be put behind Karius, with a ‘business as usual’ approach adopted by all parties.

The boss said: “That’s how it is. You make a mistake against Chester and it’s a mistake. If you make a mistake in a Champions League final, it’s a mistake you cannot change anymore, even if you want to – and we all want to.

“He was influenced by that knock, that is 100 per cent. What the rest of the world is making of it, I don’t care. It’s really not important what the people say. We do not use it as an excuse.

“Now people could think for us it is the explanation – and for me it is 100 per cent the explanation and that’s all.”



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So....

whatever else, lets start ignoring goalkeeper links cos this **** is pretty damned clear. its an explanation, not an excuse... karius wouldn't have known himself... another explanation...

We won't be signing a new keeper if klopp is willing to go so far
Interesting................probably does confirm Karius is our no.1 for this coming season.........I'm quietly pleased about that
 
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Interesting................probably does confirm Karius is our no.1 for this coming season.........I'm quietly pleased about that

there's no point whining about it.

Klopp's already made his bed and virtually has it turned down already to lay down in it.

I'm not even going to mention buying a new keeper this summer again, my final word on it is that we are utterly stupid not to and it will haunt us. But why labour the point again and again?
 
there's no point whining about it.

Klopp's already made his bed and virtually has it turned down already to lay down in it.

I'm not even going to mention buying a new keeper this summer again, my final word on it is that we are utterly stupid not to and it will haunt us. But why labour the point again and again?
Yep,we all know by now where each of us stand on the Karius thing <ok>
 
Liverpool eye Dybala if Juve land Ronaldo
While Cristiano Ronaldo-to-Juventus dominates the rumour mill, Liverpool are reportedly plotting an audacious move for Juve's Paulo Dybala.
Liverpool ’s pursuit of Nabil Fekir has been given a surprise boost aafter Lyon coach Bruno Genesio conceded that their captain could leave after all this summer.

Don't see it happening, but I would love Dybala here. Quality player. Him and Isco are the best in that role
 
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In rugby Karius would have a temporary sub while he undertook medical checks for concussion. If he passed he'd be free to return to the game.
Football is miles behind when it comes to player welfare.

tbf, for a goalie injury the game gets stopped until they are better normally.

It's the players going off for concussion that is miles behind
 
You can bet the things he needed to fix were "how the **** did you lot not spot that" to the LFC medical team. Even if not in the match, afterwards.

Don't really give a **** about the keeper situation as I've never thought it was our main problem in defeats. It was defence midfield and bench. 2 of which are on the way to being fixed.
 
In rugby Karius would have a temporary sub while he undertook medical checks for concussion. If he passed he'd be free to return to the game.
Football is miles behind when it comes to player welfare.

he might have.

he got up quick enough to whine at the ref so i doubt in rugby he would have for sure had to come off.
 
You can bet the things he needed to fix were "how the **** did you lot not spot that" to the LFC medical team. Even if not in the match, afterwards.

Don't really give a **** about the keeper situation as I've never thought it was our main problem in defeats. It was defence midfield and bench. 2 of which are on the way to being fixed.
They didn't spot it because Ramos did it on the sly and because they don't look out for it the same. Hits are bigger and much more frequent in rugby.
 
You don't live in Nottingham do you. The lad in the video does, he supports them and calls them Notts Forest - maybe it's you .... :bandit: [HASHTAG]#justsaying[/HASHTAG]

Nope. The guy in the video is a idiot. I'm guessing you don't watch many of his videos? If you did, you wouldn't be siding with him :)
 
i don't want to get in the way of a good argument :bandit:

but the term notts i always thought of as county not forest.

but i was ****e at geography, so what do i know <laugh>
 
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i don't want to get in the way of a good argument :bandit:

but the term notts i always thought of as county not forest.

but i was ****e at geography, so what do i know <laugh>

Notts is the abbreviation for Nottinghamshire. Hence Notts County.

It's Nottingham Forest and the abbreviation for Nottingham is Nottm.

Nowadays, you only see them referred to as 'Forest' anyway


Any argument otherwise is like claiming pink is actually blue!
 
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Nope. The guy in the video is a idiot. I'm guessing you don't watch many of his videos? If you did, you wouldn't be siding with him :)
I'm siding with myself and using someone who lives actually in Nottingham to back me up <whistle>

Lots of people, back in the day, [they aren't relevant to us now] referred to them as Notts Forest. This isn't for you to watch just to see the title - and there's others like it. Not saying what is or isn't the correct term to us btw, just using the term I know them by.
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Cristiano Ronaldo is closing on a stunning move to Juventus as the Serie A giants prepare to complete an £88million move.

The Portuguese star is set to quit Real Madrid after a trophy-laden nine years in the Spanish capital.

And reports across Europe claim Ronaldo has already agreed terms with the Turin club and all that remains is for the two giants of European football to agree the terms of the transfer.

His move could see Neymar reignite their interest in Paris Saint-Germain star Neymar who is reportedly unhappy in France.

And of course, there is plenty of movement in the Premier League as Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United gear up for the new season.