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redorder said:
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ts-barcelona-move-and-has-jurgen-klopp-issues
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Ah - you buy all that do you?
Klopp is the manager, and it's his job to manage in a way that he thinks will bring the best results for the team - not to pander to the ego of self-important individuals. Do you think Coutinho would have been treated differently elsewhere? Will he be allowed to dictate at Barca? Of course not.
All of this stuff by Coutinho is just an attempt by his camp to justify his current stance so it looks like his position is untenable.
He didn't get on with the manager? Yet he managed to sign a bumper contract a few months ago. It's bullshit.
 
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BobbyD said:
I do think Couts will play though if he's made to stay behind. The only time he might take his foot off the gas is towards the end of the season depending on how close you guys are to winning the league.
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So, he will tske his foot off the gas by about January then. No chance we are gonna be close to winning the league
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
Yeah... but no.



You must be smokn sone wenger dope there if you tbink a brazilian wouls miss a world cup he and his family would be lynched.
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No i'm saying that brazillian side is **** so even if Couts doesn't play they'd still pick him. They are still picking the likes of robinho and ****ing fred
 
BobbyD said:
For those who reckon Coutinho isn't going to sit out because of it being a WC, i don't think it will make much difference.

Brazil aren't the force they used to be and are a very average side going forward. Outside of Neymar, arguably Jesus and Coutinho, everyone is kinda of average going forward.

I do think Couts will play though if he's made to stay behind. The only time he might take his foot off the gas is towards the end of the season depending on how close you guys are to winning the league.
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Why?
 
jaffaklopp said:
So, he will tske his foot off the gas by about January then. No chance we are gonna be close to winning the league
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maybe he won't push that extra yard to get a tackle in, or maybe he'll bottle a 50/50 so he doesn't get injured. Loads of players do that for the world cup and especially if hes thinking he'll go to barca. Just my opinion
 
Diego said:
If there is proof of any of this then yes, report them <ok>
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If you bring a civil case you are allowed to have access to all e-mail communication and telephone records. A decent PI will find the links easy. We wouldn't do that though - it'd be ****ing suicide knowing how many times we've done it ourselves.
 
BobbyD said:
maybe he won't push that extra yard to get a tackle in, or maybe he'll bottle a 50/50 so he doesn't get injured. Loads of players do that for the world cup and especially if hes thinking he'll go to barca. Just my opinion
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Does that anyway. Couts is **** at tackling
 
FSG have backed themselves into a corner. Let's assume they're a company of their word. If so, we won't lose Coutinho but we also don't get VVD as they stated we won't be back in for him.
Read on Empire of the Kop earlier that Klopp is after an "experienced midfielder". Are they a reliable source or just click bait?
 
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charmingmikeylfc said:
FSG have backed themselves into a corner. Let's assume they're a company of their word. If so, we won't lose Coutinho but we also don't get VVD as they stated we won't be back in for him.
Read on Empire of the Kop earlier that Klopp is after an "experienced midfielder". Are they a reliable source or just click bait?
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My guess is we wont be signing anyone else, unless its VvD, and thats a decreasing likelihood.

Didn't get who we wanted so Klopp is going to pout and FSG are going to rub their hands together with all the money they haven't had to spend
 
Diego said:
There is a way of doing this, all professional teams use the same method and it's accepted by most.
Approach the agent and tell him you are interested in his player.
Agent asks what are you thinking for his future
Club, probably a contract of 4 years plus optional 1 or 5 fixed if we can agree and regular first team football in CL (dependant on clubs involved)
Agent, what were you thinking salary wise
Club, we can probably go to double his present salary.
Agent, I will have a word and see if he is interested.

See, no direct contact between club and player, no actual tapping up, just an enquiry made to see if it's worth putting a bid in. Most if not all clubs work this way, papers get wind of the interest (agent obviously) and "contract agreed" headlines appear.
Blame the agent for the tapping up in normal circumstances but then, it's their job to get the best for their client.
Some clubs just get it all wrong and sit down with a player personally to discus contract, salary etc before his club even know anything about the interest, that's known as tapping up.
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How can you 'prove' that a manager meeting a player means they have discussed a contract? I mean you are the one being obtuse here and denying any circumstantial evidence, so how does a meeting between a player and a manager 'prove' anything? (Unless they put it in the autobiography later, like Jaap Stam did about Slurgy).
 
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BobbyD said:
For those who reckon Coutinho isn't going to sit out because of it being a WC, i don't think it will make much difference.

Brazil aren't the force they used to be and are a very average side going forward. Outside of Neymar, arguably Jesus and Coutinho, everyone is kinda of average going forward.

I do think Couts will play though if he's made to stay behind. The only time he might take his foot off the gas is towards the end of the season depending on how close you guys are to winning the league.
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I can see him taking up Studge's bed in the infirmary @ March time. Still makes total sense to keep him though if Barca don't cough up the £135m - cash
 
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