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  1. Milk..

    Milk.. Well-Known Member

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    There is no one definition because politics exists on more than one axis.

    I would say in general though, someone far right would believe that the rights of one group of people (to which that person belongs) should exceed the rights of other groups of people.

    Be it over religion, race, identity, physical characteristics, or even where you're from.
     
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    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    I must be a complete fascist because I think that the rights of anyone who plays in blue or in Greater Manchester deserve relegation. I don’t even feel sorry saying it <whistle>
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Arne Slot says we don't need to sign anyone.

    So let's just all calm down about Americans and do like one of those hands in the middle and say go team not606 or something.
     
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    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    what??? He thinks we’re good enough and better than the rest??? He’s beginning to look a slot like a fascist <whistle>
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    The bald head gives it away.
     
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    I'm so sorry.....I ****ed up <wah>
     
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  7. saintanton

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    Everyone should care about things that have a significant impact on our lives - otherwise we're just sleepwalking into disaster.
     
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    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    I agree with your statement although I think that was the point; does Musk really have a significant impact on our lives? I guess some of us think it’s less of an impact than others….. comparing him to Hitler seems a bit far fetched to me, although I will claim a little ignorance and immaturity on my side <ok>
     
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  9. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    Musk has no impact at all on our lives (except maybe those cretins that go on twatter), he's just a very wealthy man who likes spotlight and gets away with saying what he wants.
    Try calling him name on twatter and see how long freedom of speach lasts <laugh>
     
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  10. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    I think thinking the richest man in the world who already has already impacted American politics and has started now getting involved in uk politics buy suggesting Tommy Robinson should be freed as having no impact on our lives is a bit naive.

    He will and probably already has a major impact on a lot of high level things which will trickle down and impact us.

    Twitter is owned by him and he can easily control what is and isn’t on there. Yea Twitter is a cesspool but a lot of younger people will believe things in there, he can and does use that to push false information.
    The riots a few months ago? That was all fuelled by social media… luckily that didn’t impact me but that would have impacted some families whose business were smashed up, or houses and cars smashed etc.
     
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  11. johnsonsbaby

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    I obviously wasn't clear enough in how I expressed my thoughts but I still think you misinterpreted what I said. You have now said that Musk has an impact on your life. I honestly don't understand how. I can say quite definitely that he has no impact on mine.

    Unlike most who've commented on him here, I can't get worked up enough to care about him personally. I never throw out labels on people - racist, fascist etc because I don't allow myself to get that involved. I can think someone is evil or conversely, good without attaching any emotion to them personally. None of this means that I think what evil people do is acceptable and I'm sure you already know that. I'm guessing that you haven't been out on the street protesting about him or writing to whoever you would need to write to to actually do something to express your anger and I certainly haven't so I am able to remain calm and unmoved by the mention of his name while you get worked up and filled with negative emotions which in my mind is unnecessary and not good for your mental wellbeing.
     
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    I don't make that comparison myself, but I think it's meant to warn against complacency, rather than equating their actions. Even though it might appear that the person has good intentions to begin with, the outcomes can be very different to those intentions.
    Hitler was a war hero and a patriot, and started off trying to make a Germany that had been brought to its knees with reparations able to stand up again and - well, we all know what happened next.
    Power corrupts.
    Trump is painting his allies as enemies, and Musk is trying to interfere in the politics of another - again, theoretically friendly - nation. These things don't bode well for international relations.
    They're extremists, and very little good ever comes from extremism, either right or left.
     
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    Now, with all due respect JB - you really can't say that. Perhaps you don't take much notice of him or let him affect you emotionally, but if he is interfering in our politics then it's having an effect on you whether you care or not, or whether you notice or not.
    Twitter was a cesspool of misinformation before he took over, but rather than improve it he's made it easier for bad actors to spread lies and conspiracy theories. If people are influenced by those whose purpose is to foment social instability and unrest then yes, it affects us all.
    I fully agree that worrying too much over something you can't influence can be detrimental to your health - only today I've had a long discussion with my daughter on this. But she has a lot more of her life ahead of her than I, and she and many of her peers are seriously concerned about global trends towards extremism, denial of climate change and other major issues.
    And yes, she is very much engaged in raising awareness and working towards viable solutions to these problems.
    I've seen plenty of crises during my lifetime, so I'm not quite as alarmed by yet another one, but we are moving towards one and we should be aware of that.
     
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    Have we signed anyone yet?
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Nope.

    Not much in terms of rumours but I expect there to be a few loans out.

    If I were morton I'd say nothing til end of January and then try get out on loan with a view to finding a club in the summer.

    If I were Endo I'd try sit tight on this contract as I'd never get better and try go on a free at the end.

    If I were Elliott I'd want to take a loan as all his progress with England u21s and lfc has stalled.

    If I were nunez I'd want a move that get me at least the same money if not more but napoli won't cut it.

    Chiesa just wants warm weather and a nice time. He's a make weight for some deal or other.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    The bargain hunters seem to be sniffing around big time.

    Doak has done OK the the championship. Just OK imo. They've tried a 15mil bid which is half what we would take.

    Now koumas is subject to interest as well. Again stoke are struggling but he is playing but his output numbers are not massive. Again people see an easy maybe cheap option for themselves.

    I wonder if people are looking and seeing our academy that we've worked hard to aquire over time might be full of bargains that the club are no longer that interested in.

    I've not heard any more on bajcetic move yet.

    Pitaluga is gone. He's gone home so hasn't managed at any loan to make an impression.

    Stephenson at Dundee utd has done OK, playing all over midfield there rather than rb so might watch him.

    McConnell is being touted for a loan

    Scanlon has gone back to milwall to try again after injury recovery.

    Gordon recall is tbd

    Chambers unfortunately got an injury as well have started the first 10 games at Wigan.

    Ramsay has been recalled and is going to Scotland for last chance saloon.

    Beck has done quite well at Blackburn though. Another one who is further along but without being good enough for prem.


    Overall it's mostly about price that lfc charge whether there's a career for these lads like conor toady got. They all need to get out cos they are never making it with us and just play play play and try get up the leagues with a club that will back them.

    We've 3 lbs out there in Beck, Chambers and scanlon.

    We've Stephenson as rb

    We've Gordon who was stolen out of another academy and has failed at Norwich.

    We have bajcetic who is not covering himself in glory with attitude at salzburg.l and who seems to now just want to go to Spain all the time.

    We've doak who seems to be in demand and can't wait for a move.

    We have morton who put two good seasons in and was returned to the club but then not sold and dumped in the u21s to rot so his value has at least halved over the season

    We will be sending out the others next.

    We play a side that normally klopp would have absolutely gone to town with young players that I think we won't see more than 1 if they are lucky.

    I think young players we are tapping up up and down the country will be thinking twice about lfc in future.

    Let's see if nallo, nyoni or that little fella rio get any time. I kind of doubt it.
     
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    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    I see the FSG comms team have been greasing the palms of friendly journos again. Let's be clear - we won't be buying anyone, especially £100m players, in the Jan window because we don't want to upset the balance of the squad. We have a "war chest" for the summer, and providing somebody meets our strict performance data profile we will pay whatever it takes. Just like Chiesa did. :bandit:




    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...gue-Napoli-hotshot-Khvicha-Kvaratskhelia.html
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Classic fsg.

    You cant argue with giving fans massive hope with quadruplensilly talk then an annual implosion where 4th is just about secured and maye a league cup.

    Most clubs would kill for fsg level success.
     
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    No, but Liverpool FC in Montevideo (our Uruguayan namesakes) signed a "Juan" last year. But we're yet to sign any Juan.
     
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    He is propping up Trump who is trying to get the world set up like the 1800's again where there is no globalization and tarrifs block trade between countries. Not only will this economically hurt everyone, but when countries are less dependent on each other it increases the likelihood of violent conflict.

    You, me, and most people in the world will be less well off as a result. He is anti workers rights and has a significant mouthpiece to spew his dibble which is broadcast to every country in the world.


    You will be impacted by him. Even if indirectly. He is partially responsible for making all our lives worse.
     
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