What's the point on here though? None of us is in a position to do anything about it. Constant negativity just wears you down, I really don't get it.
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Well its a forum for discussion so i guess thats why
Is this the same Lovren that almost everyone wanted shot of?
Yeah, with hindsight we needed a replacement, but there could be many reasons why we didn't find an adequate one. And I defy anyone to suggest they could see that ridiculous run of injuries in the offing.
Whatever you do, do not login to twitter. It is a mess and a good example why people without an ID shouldnt be allowed on social media. I can excuse the young ones but there are fully grown men actually making some of the most absurd arguments. Mind you, last season is the barometer apparently everyone will get injured again so we should but more players to negate that even though we cannot due to squad make up restrictions.Is this the same Lovren that almost everyone wanted shot of?
Yeah, with hindsight we needed a replacement, but there could be many reasons why we didn't find an adequate one. And I defy anyone to suggest they could see that ridiculous run of injuries in the offing.
Yes, you're right - but there are (at least) two sides to that argument.Well its a forum for discussion so i guess thats why
Your right to moan is no more than my right to moan at your moaning.
Anyways - my point is that there's nothing to be gained from carping about something you have no control over - and I don't think it's all that healthy, tbh.
I enjoy football and I love my team no matter what. There are ups and downs, and I get frustrated too at bad results or more especially poor performances - but overall I'm happy with the way things are.
Could they be better? Of course - but look on the bright side, at least you're not an Arsenal supporter.
Twitter's a cesspool.
The comments sections of sports sites are littered with such stuff as well. It's as though they're all thirteen.
Truthfully, I don't know. But I would say sometime in the next two years. Of course my ideal would be as soon as possible. But I don't have all the information.
Beides which, we have bought two players for those positions, so techically we only need one more. But while Jota has done ok, Minamino hasn't (in both cases: so far). As with Keita and Ox, if Minamino had been as good as hoped, the issue looks less pressing. But again, signing players for the sake of it isn't the answer.
Depends who we get in. If we bring in someone not as good, then yeah, we won't be as good. We have essentially been punching above our weight wirh Klopp.
Arsenal remind me more of us about 10 years ago.
Am not sure who mentioned it on here….but Utd’s revenue was almost the same as ours just before the Covid crisis…in fact, we may have even overtaken them. They’ve loaded the club up with more debt and they don’t have to develop their stadium as the prior owners had the foresight and money to build infrastructure when it was more affordable.
we are on a sound financial footing AND competing. Would I like more signings? Yes, of course I would. Would I like FSG to load half a billion of debt onto the club to do that….as per Utd? Absolutely not…..anybody who does is either very young, a new fan or has a poor memory.
FSG have always cut their cloth. It was good enough 3 years ago…it is good enough right now. We have one of the worlds best keepers, the best CB, two of the best full backs, one of the best DM’s and a couple of the best wingers…….not to mention, the best coach in the world (probably)….if you really want to see what FSG have down for us, go and look at the team of 11 or 12 years ago. Hodgson s team.
like I said, it’s not that I don’t want to improve but we need perspective. We’ve come a long way since Hodgson….so far that expectations are now sky high.
we are on a sound financial footing AND competing. Would I like more signings? Yes, of course I would. Would I like FSG to load half a billion of debt onto the club to do that….as per Utd? Absolutely not…..anybody who does is either very young, a new fan or has a poor memory.
FSG have always cut their cloth. It was good enough 3 years ago…it is good enough right now. We have one of the worlds best keepers, the best CB, two of the best full backs, one of the best DM’s and a couple of the best wingers…….not to mention, the best coach in the world (probably)….if you really want to see what FSG have down for us, go and look at the team of 11 or 12 years ago. Hodgson s team.
like I said, it’s not that I don’t want to improve but we need perspective. We’ve come a long way since Hodgson….so far that expectations are now sky high.
Good points and will try to address each one -
- COVID on finances. This was valid until we see pretty much every other club in the league and across Europe spending money and strhengthething their squads. We were then told by all of the local journalists that the RedBird investment would mitigate against these losses and returns us back to pre-Covid level of spending.
- Yes, buying quality players and developing them costs money in terms of transfer fees and wages. This is what every top clubs in the history of sport has to deal with.
- Agreed, we do things by the book. If every club abided by FFP, then our model is fine. unfortunately, we're being penalised for following the rules.
- You say withhold spending in the short term - we're amongst the lowest net spenders for a while. How long do we need to keep saving money?
- Agreed, we need to evolve but it's best to consistently improve by adding 1-3 players each year, rather than having an overhaul IMO.
- When people try to oppose 'spending', they often look at other club where it's failed i.e. Arsenal. I agree, they spent so much and wasted every £. But instead of looking at them, why not look at ourselves? We have been so good at recruitment with around. an 80-90% hit rate. Our recent success is literally down to getting the best manager in the world and buying top class players like Ali, Fabinho etc. We have proven that when we spend, we spent it well. We are a perfect example of it.
No one wants to spend just for the sake of it but no one can tell me that this is squad is perfect and doesn't require signings.
how many squads are perfect? City need a #9, Utd need a DCM. It never stops obviously, but we are neither mega bucks City or load up the debt Utd. We are sensible Liverpool. Right, Wrong or indifferent, under current ownership, that’s who we are so we’d better get used to it
Am not sure who mentioned it on here….but Utd’s revenue was almost the same as ours just before the Covid crisis…in fact, we may have even overtaken them. They’ve loaded the club up with more debt and they don’t have to develop their stadium as the prior owners had the foresight and money to build infrastructure when it was more affordable.
we are on a sound financial footing AND competing. Would I like more signings? Yes, of course I would. Would I like FSG to load half a billion of debt onto the club to do that….as per Utd? Absolutely not…..anybody who does is either very young, a new fan or has a poor memory.
FSG have always cut their cloth. It was good enough 3 years ago…it is good enough right now. We have one of the worlds best keepers, the best CB, two of the best full backs, one of the best DM’s and a couple of the best wingers…….not to mention, the best coach in the world (probably)….if you really want to see what FSG have down for us, go and look at the team of 11 or 12 years ago. Hodgson s team.
like I said, it’s not that I don’t want to improve but we need perspective. We’ve come a long way since Hodgson….so far that expectations are now sky high.
I did. during covid were were only 11mil shy of their revenues posted.
you are dead right compared to 2010 this is gravy.
We could have a billion pound in the bank, still rather us sign no one than spend for the sake of spending. Trust the club and those in charge to sign the RIGHT players.
so has Mavis the in the laundry department .
Yeah, four legs good, two legs better, or something like that, We love you, FSG - our saviours.
