I think we can say Divock and the Shaq are history
We should yes but they have good wages and long contracts so no incentive to be ambitious. If we want new top players in (not sure fsg want to do anything) then someone has to go.
I think we can say Divock and the Shaq are history
He wasn't in the 2018 WC squad. There are a lot of good players in his position ahead of him just like at Liverpool.Origi missing out on euros should be the kick he needs to go get himself a move. World Cup is next year, needs a season playing to be considered.
same with a few other fringe players.
In the end we need to go look at the squads.
There can only be 17 non homegrown.
Alisson
Adrian
Konate
Matip
Van dijk
Tsimikas
Fabinho
Keita
Shaqiri
Thiago
Mane
Salah
Jota
Firmino
Origi
Minamino
Wijnaldum is out.
That's 17 names above. Theres room for one more with windy gone so kabak not being signed makes sense
Gomez
Trent
Ox
Milner
Henderson
Davies
Phillips
Robertson
Jones and William's x2 and kelleher are all under 21
This is the full 25 over the age of 21 l. Selling up english players makes little sense as you simply have to have some by the rules.
So selling up english players and buying foreign movies zero sense.
If/when konate is bought then in effect weve a full squad. This is why if we want to improve we either pay the english add on for a kane or grealish or whoever or we sell up a shaqiri or origi to make room for them.
It is also really why grujic is unlikely to be retained as there no room in squad is there.l?


He wasn't in the 2018 WC squad. There are a lot of good players in his position ahead of him just like at Liverpool.
We should have sold him after the CL final because that was when his value was at it’s highest. We’re not blessed with limitless funds so we have to sell these players better IMO.
I'm not sure there's a 'value at it's highest' aspect any more. It's willing buyer/willing seller situation regardless. The only thing that keeps happening is clubs overpaying based on WC performances which is as false a reason to buy as you'll see.We should have sold him after the CL final because that was when his value was at it’s highest. We’re not blessed with limitless funds so we have to sell these players better IMO.
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Origi's never been 'on it' ; he's had moments where he scores a goal from nowhere or is in the right place at the right time. I can't think of a perfomance (or even a shift) where you've thought, "wow, he deserves a start". He's just been perenially **** or bang average with a fluke worldie tossed in every 30 games.
I'm not sure there's a 'value at it's highest' aspect any more. It's willing buyer/willing seller situation regardless. The only thing that keeps happening is clubs overpaying based on WC performances which is as false a reason to buy as you'll see.
I'd have thought that when looking at buying a player, clubs take everything into account not just the latest performances. Nobody is going to pay more for an average striker because he's scored the winner in his last two games. Apart from this sort of thing happening after every WC, I think buying clubs look at a player in terms of the whole package and what that's worth.It's all about getting the best deal for us. Selling Origi now vs after the CL final, I'm sure the values would have been different.
And this is why I feel we should be cashing in on Nat Phillips now - his value will never be any higher than it is right now because he simply won't get the game time next season (and if he does get mins next season, then we clearly haven't learnt anything from this seasons debacle).
To be fair, there was a period just before he got injured by that Everton player years ago. Prior to that point, he did look quite up for it and was scoring a few goals. He looked like he could have developed into that focal point up top. But he's never quite been the same since then.
Spot the patternFunes Mongy. Saluted the cheering Everton fans as he left the pitch after being sent off as Origi was being carried off. Class.
According to ran, Origi, Karius, Wilson, Grujic and Awoniyi are all supposed to leave this summer. So, er, no surprises there then.
Asking price for Awoniyi around EUR 9 million. Fulham, West Brom and Stoke apparently interested.
According to ran Karius contract runs til 2022.Wow.
If we can get 9mil for awoniyi who's had a series of injuries and not one impressive season then footballs backnin full swing again.
Karius is finally put of contract I think.
Origi is hard to see anyone paying him enough to really want to go