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  1. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    He has 21 assists in 79 starts for Napoli #nottooshabby
     
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  2. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Markovic has an assist for passing the ball to Coutinho when he smashed in that screamer v saints..

    Assists need to be taken in context.
     
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  3. Lucaaas

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    Well all goals could also be the ball hitting someone's arse and going in from a corner. Dismissing all goal stats would seem a bit strong in that instance. So I don't think him creating a goal every 4 games is irrelevant to the argument that he isn't involved in build up play and cannot create chances.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    markovic will be <magic> next season

    believe...
     
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  5. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    And if you're looking for a striker who can just stick the ball in the net and not get involved then fine.

    I'm not saying he's not good, I think Van Nistelrooy was one of best strikers in the Prem, deadly anywhere in the area, but he rarely got involved in build up play. He didn't need to because he had Scholes/Giggs/Beckham creating chances left right and centre for him.

    In our team, we have Coutinho and possibly Sterling as creative players and we aren't going to create loads of chances to just have a luxury striker to just stand around in 6 yard box and put the ball in the net (as proven by Balotelli being **** this season).

    What we need is someone who is going to help get involved in the build up play, link with the others, something I just don't see Higuain doing (as well as Benteke if played up top on his own to be honest).
     
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  6. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    The stats would suggest that you are also talking out of your arse, as he's got twice as many assists as Coutinho this season with 10
     
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  7. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    And finally, Liverpool may be preparing a shock bid to bring Carl Medjani back to the club,according to reports in Turkey (via Talksport).

    The Algerian spent three years with the Reds but failed to make a senior appearance and was eventually shipped off to Lorient in 2006.

    But Turkish newspaper Haberturk claims that Liverpool will pay Trabzonspor a fee of around £2m for the 30-year-old and a deal could be done as early as next week.



    Random. So very random.
     
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  8. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Like I said, context.

    Coutinho hasn't had a centre forward to actually assist all season
     
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    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    Luis Suarez: Liverpool the only Premier League team I'd play for

    Barcelona striker Luis Suarez has pledged his unwavering allegiance to former club Liverpool after declaring that the Merseyside outfit are the only Premier League team he'd ever play for.
    The Uruguay international was asked whether he'd consider a return to England's top-flight at some point in the future after turning out at Anfield for Steven Gerrard's side in Sunday's All-Star game.
    Suarez was pragmatic with his response by refusing to rule anything out, but the likelihood of him quitting Camp Nou anytime soon seems a little farfetched, particularly now that he's starting to rediscover his best form as part of Luis Enrique's attacking triumvirate that includes two other world-leading stars in Neymar and, of course, Lionel Messi.
    Liverpool all-star game: Henry unleashes fake shot pass in 0
    "You never know in football what the future holds but if I ever play in England again, I will play for the Liverpool team and not another team," the Barca ace told Liverpool TV as quoted by the Daily Mail.
    "I've missed the fans, [and] the atmosphere is unbelievable, it's amazing. Everyone who's played for Liverpool knows how important the supporters are. They know they are in my heart."


    Raheem Sterling could cost £100m, admits Manuel Pellegrini
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    Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini believes Liverpool would not sell Raheem Sterling unless they received a bid of £100 million.
    The comment came as a response to questioning over homegrown players. Manchester City are struggling to fill the required quota of eight qualifying players in their 25-man Premier League squad.
    James Milner looks set to be the latest homegrown player to leave the Etihad, following the recent exits of Scott Sinclair, Joleon Lescott and Gareth Barry out the door. As a result, Manchester City are believed to be drawing up a list of homegrown targets for this summer's transfer window.
    Brendan Rodgers on Raheem Sterling future at the club in 0
    Sterling is one of England's brightest prospects and would be an attractive proposition for the Citizens. However, the fact that Sterling is English means there would be a significant premium on any transfer.
    "Can you get Sterling? Maybe if you go to Liverpool with £100 million you can"
    Couple that with the fact that Sterling is an outstanding talent and Manchester City are Liverpool's direct rivals and you are quickly looking at a huge transfer fee.
    Jurgen Klopp: I want to manage Liverpool
    JURGEN KLOPP is prepared to scrap plans for a six month sabbatical in order to take charge of Liverpool, according to reports in Germany.
     
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  10. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    IBWT, I think you should watch Higuain tonight and see how good his movement is and how much he contributes to the team.

    @InBiscanWeTrust @Treble
     
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  11. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Who?! <laugh>
     
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  12. Lucaaas

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    Carl ****ing Medjani <laugh>
     
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  13. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Linked with a move for Cardiff keeper David Marshall as competition for Mig in £5m deal.

    Lot of money for a champ keeper, but I did actually think he played well for them last year in the peen and was surprised no one went for him in the summer.

    Not it sure he's any better than what we have and he's not played at top level much
     
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  14. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Let's look at the previous season then, when Coutinho was playing with Suarez......

    When he got 7 assists to Higuains 11 <whistle>

    Just accept the fact that you've made an incorrect assumption about the ability of Higuain in terms of his team play.
     
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  15. ademuzzy

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    I'm a cardiff season ticket holder. I rate marshall highly, great reactions, good with crosses and commands his area well. His distribution is usually boot it up the pitch so I don't know what he would offer in terms of passing from the back or coping with forward players putting him under pressure, when he has the ball.
     
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  16. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    You've missed my point. I'm not talking about assists, I'm talking about creating his own chances. Assists could mean passing the ball 5 yards sidewards for someone to score, you need context to make a judgement on stats alone.

    From when I've seen him for Madrid and very briefly for Napoli, he doesn't seems to be the kind of striker that will create 10 of his own goals a season and instead relies on others to create him chances. All fine and in most teams that's not a problem, but in our team at the moment we need someone more than that.

    Put Higuain in Chelsea or City's team and he'll probably score shed loads of goals because I think he's a quality striker and finisher. But at the moment, we don't have enough creative players to compliment him.
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    doesn't matter... :emoticon-0121-angry he's a manc lover.
     
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  18. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    RVP won them a league almost single-handed a few seasons ago. Past his best now, but never ****. Sadly.
     
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  19. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    I didn't miss your point at all, you said that you didn't see him as a player who would get involved in build up play - and you were completely wrong <ok>
     
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  20. They could have had Kevin Phillips up front that season and still won it!
     
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