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saintKloppsky said:
Perhaps, but not necessarily. He might think that the only keepers available aren't enough of an improvement, and that those who are are just way over-priced.
I honestly can't see how anyone can justify a team with our aspirations going into a new season with Karius as no.1. I felt as sorry for the guy as anyone in the aftermath of the CL final, but we can't build a team around sentiment. He might be strong enough to overcome that disaster, but equally he might fall apart when the pressure builds again. How can we take that risk?
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But if keepers were judged on singular matches or singular mistakes then maybe MU would be looking for a new one after De Gea's WC <whistle>
 
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Zanjinho said:
Well, he is. Maybe not by everyone but certainly some. He improved a lot last season and people were actually getting behind him until that final.
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Not by me he isn't.
He improved to a level of ok-ness from a very low starting point for a keeper at our level. I support all our players, but that doesn't preclude me from offering a critique when I think it's necessary.
I repeat, he might be able to rebuild from here, but equally he might not. We shouldn't be taking that risk, imo.
 
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I grew up watching Tommy Lawrence aka The Flying Pig, so I know all about short, fat keepers and he was an excellent short, fat keeper.

Times have changed and I want my keeper to be a tall, lean goal-stopping machine. I quite like the look of Subašić.
 
saintKloppsky said:
Not by me he isn't.
He improved to a level of ok-ness from a very low starting point for a keeper at our level. I support all our players, but that doesn't preclude me from offering a critique when I think it's necessary.
I repeat, he might be able to rebuild from here, but equally he might not. We shouldn't be taking that risk, imo.
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Agreed he wasn't at the level required but he was improving. At just 24, he's got plenty of time to develop further. Plenty of other keepers that are better than him out there too though.

However, that wasn't the point. The point was the reaction from the final. Simple yes or no answer... do you think some have judged him purely on that final?
 
Zanjinho said:
Agreed he wasn't at the level required but he was improving. At just 24, he's got plenty of time to develop further. Plenty of other keepers that are better than him out there too though.

However, that wasn't the point. The point was the reaction from the final. Simple yes or no answer... do you think some have judged him purely on that final?
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I said that I'm not. How can I speak for anyone else?
 
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In all fairness we'll never really know if the knock on the head made any difference to Karius' performance. Rival fans thought it was hilarious, our own fans fill the spectrum from sympathy to outrage. I'm sort of at midway point on it.
 
organic red said:
Yes, I wasn't hearing to many complaints re. Karius before the CL final
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He has never convinced me that he will be a reliable GK at the top level. He rarely holds shots, seems to struggle to pick the flight of shots , his distribution can and does lead to dangerous situations. I never saw this big improvement in his play just better protection and in relation to Mignolet a much better GK at crosses and sweeper/keeper situations.
 
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in fairness when there's no option or a possibility of an option there is no point hammering on annoying yourself and everyone else.

now there is a transfer window is the time to say we need to replace karius.
 
Swedish_Air 2 said:
oh sorry sir <doffs cap>
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I think he's just pointing out that those of us who were unconvinced about Karius didn't bang on about it all the time when there was nothing to be done.
It's been suggested that we turned against him because of the final, but that's not the case.
 
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