I think we 'ended interest' a while ago when it became clear that he didn't want to come.
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I think we 'ended interest' a while ago when it became clear that he didn't want to come.
Really want us to move away from VVD. It's ridiculous.
How many scouts do we have, how much are they being paid and what the **** are they doing? Kids who are 5 years old can tell you he's a good player. It's an obscene price for someone with his limited record in the PL and just missed a few months with a serious injury. For £70million, there should be plenty of CB's around who'd improve us equally or even more so and for a club of this size, I'd expect them to find them. Or at least stalk Saints' scouts who are clearly way ahead of our lot.
How many scouts do we have, how much are they being paid and what the **** are they doing? Kids who are 5 years old can tell you he's a good player. It's an obscene price for someone with his limited record in the PL and just missed a few months with a serious injury. For £70million, there should be plenty of CB's around who'd improve us equally or even more so and for a club of this size, I'd expect them to find them. Or at least stalk Saints' scouts who are clearly way ahead of our lot.
one of them is Jonathon woodgate who is apparently an expert on Portugal and Spain
i kid you not.
no wonder we've outsourced recruitment to Southampton.
If people think our whole team of backroom staff are solely focused on VVD then you're being a little bit stupid tbh.
Yeah, it's the complete Southampton setup, not just one player
Liverpool are believed to have several concerns about a potential deal for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.
There are doubts about how much first-team football Chamberlain would receive at Liverpool with the Reds already possessing a number of midfield options, including new signing Mohamed Salah
Several reports indicated that Liverpool were prepared to pay £25m to sign Chamberlain this summer. However, the Daily Star has claimed there would be a number of problems with the deal.
There are doubts about how much first-team football Chamberlain would receive at Liverpool with the Reds already possessing a number of midfield options, including new signing Mohamed Salah.
In addition, Chamberlain is reportedly looking for a substantial increase his current wages, which Liverpool aren’t prepared to pay. To compound matters, Chamberlain’s agent, Aidy Ward, has a poor relationship with Liverpool after his involvement in Raheem Sterling’s departure.
Ward’s aggressive approach to securing a move for his clients does not seem to go down well with clubs, as Arsenal are discovering. All this means that Liverpool are prioritising other targets.
Meanwhile, the Star also report there’s been progress in contract talks between Arsenal and Chamberlain.
- Liverpool are unable to guarantee Chamberlain regular first team football
- Chamberlain also wants a significant wage increase
- Liverpool have poor relationship with Chamberlain’s agent
- They’re prioritising other targets
There are doubts about how much first-team football Chamberlain would receive at Liverpool with the Reds already possessing a number of midfield options, including new signing Mohamed Salah
Several reports indicated that Liverpool were prepared to pay £25m to sign Chamberlain this summer. However, the Daily Star has claimed there would be a number of problems with the deal.
There are doubts about how much first-team football Chamberlain would receive at Liverpool with the Reds already possessing a number of midfield options, including new signing Mohamed Salah.
In addition, Chamberlain is reportedly looking for a substantial increase his current wages, which Liverpool aren’t prepared to pay. To compound matters, Chamberlain’s agent, Aidy Ward, has a poor relationship with Liverpool after his involvement in Raheem Sterling’s departure.
Ward’s aggressive approach to securing a move for his clients does not seem to go down well with clubs, as Arsenal are discovering. All this means that Liverpool are prioritising other targets.
Meanwhile, the Star also report there’s been progress in contract talks between Arsenal and Chamberlain.
Still think we should avoid dealing with Ward after the way he behaved with Sterling.
Yeah true, let's just avoid The Ox all together really.
Fairly pointless transfer imo.
I can't see what he would add to a top 8 side. He wants to play CM and he just isn't good enough
The OX is like Barklay - world at their feet three years ago, but injuries, weight issues and suchlike sees them looking like they're taking the Rodwell path.
I think they have it in them to turn it round, but they can't think they will get a step up first without taking a step down/sideways first.
I was thinking Ox was worth a gamble if Koeman was going for a front three, an improvement on Mirallas.....but now??!!
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one of them is Jonathon woodgate who is apparently an expert on Portugal and Spain
i kid you not.
no wonder we've outsourced recruitment to Southampton.
No he's not. He never joined us or if he did was onlyfor short period.
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Don't forget ex saints players like oclade chamberlain!
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37043831
It happened. I believe he's now a first team coach at Boro which is why they went down.... but he only left 2 months ago.
My point was the travesty that allowed a no nothing to be appointed a scout for a region he was in for a brief time as a hilarious real Madrid joke...
That's lfc scouting for you.
See I think thats the problem. I think CB is going through one of those phases were there are relatively few 'better than good' players and the ones who are are already settled at big clubs or would cost a similar price and/or in there 30s and don't represent value.
I keep asking people on here who else is there out there who would improve us to such an extent as VvD. All I've got is 'we not scouts' which maybe true, but if there were these players out there people would know.
Well, we're not scouts, that's kind of the point! Only way someone can answer your question is if they watch every league in the world (maybe Jimmy is your man?)
You don't need to be a scout to know about Van Dickface, so the question is... what are our scouts actually doing?
I don't watch the French league yet I know who Mbappe is, I don't watch Spanish football but I know who Griezman is.
I'm not asking people to name some undiscovered superstar, just a realistic alternative who be as good as VvD.
Think its clear our scouts are all based on the South Coast.
Do we have a chance of signing Mbappe (despite paper talk) or Griezman?
Personally, I don't watch any other league. I don't even watch that much PL football anymore, mainly just our games.
I certainly couldn't name a realistic CB target from abroad (ie; a non-superstar).
Any player in the PL is ridiculously expensive.
My point is more that people should be entitled to an opinion on Van Dickface without having to provide an alternative. It's not like Klopp is listening or our opinion matters.
PS...I do think we should be looking to sign Ruben Neves from Porto though (saw a few times a couple of years ago but links seem to have gone stale since)