Transfer Embargo

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

What’s gonna happen

  • Temporary blip

  • Complete ****ing collapse

  • It’ll all be ok

  • Relegation

Results are only viewable after voting.
Mckechnie Orange said:
Acun: "There is no problem between Hull city and any other club".

Villa: "We can't afford to keep funding your cashflow".
Click to expand...

You must log in or register to see images


To be fair, Villa’s CFO sounds like a clown too.

Still our fault though because the club should be aware that the EFL’s ‘Persistent Default’ rule isn’t superseded by Villa’s CFO saying ‘yeah, mate, just pay us whenever, or not at all since we owe you money for Philogene’.

Completely amateurish.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gone For A Walk
The CFRU (EFL Club Financial Reporting Unit) submitted that:
a. This was a serious breach. On its case, it was a failure to pay £830,077.77 to Club A over 311 days
b. The Club hoped it could get away without paying Club A and tried to avoid paying for as long a period as possible. When matters eventually came to a head at the end of June, Club A’s CFO of Club A stated in an email on 30 June 2025:
“We can’t afford to keep funding your cashflow.”
c. The default in payment was deliberate: it could not pay and did not pay.
d. The Club has unreasonably disputed the breach. It argued that the Club “has sought to identify self-serving arguments as to how it was entitled not to pay sums it owed while accepting that it could not have paid those debts.
e. The Club took no steps to remedy the breach. It submitted the Club “sought to lie low in the hope that it could get away without paying Club A sooner”

damning stuff really. Proves we've got a bunch of idiots in charge. Needs to be serious change or we're not getting past the suspended restriction.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Drew and Ric Glasgow
Kalman II said:
You must log in or register to see images


To be fair, Villa’s CFO sounds like a clown too.

Still our fault though because the club should be aware that the EFL’s ‘Persistent Default’ rule isn’t superseded by Villa’s CFO saying ‘yeah, mate, just pay us whenever, or not at all since we owe you money for Philogene’.

Completely amateurish.
Click to expand...

Absolutely right.

So can we now drop the idea that this was all a big misunderstanding as the evidence clearly shows the club deliberately avoided paying the money owed because of reasons our owner invented?
 
  • Like
Reactions: City1904, SydneyTiger14, Newland Tiger and 2 others
I did think the 3 window suspension was a bit mad if there really was just a bit of uncertainty in whether or not we could use the philogene sell on/transfer cash to cover the Barry loan fee. Appears that wasn't the case at all and we just buried our heads in the sand over it.

Alarm bells should now be ringing through the fan base over Acun's ability to run the club (if they weren't already for some people).
 
City tried to argue we would’ve made the payments to Villa on time if Trabzonspor paid us on time for, presumably, Tufan.

Just dodgy as ****. Acun must’ve thought he could blag his way out of it because clubs in Turkey are all unreliable when it comes to paying on time. Trabzonspor have form for this as well. Look up the legal mess of their payments to Kasımpaşa for Doğucan Haspolat and Eren Elmalı.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Steven Toast
pcworks said:
I have a had quick skim through the documents, but Hull City, the management and Acun don't come out of the EFL appeal review smelling of roses...

I have a feeling the next Acun Q&A session might be interesting, better guard the fire alarm button in case.
Click to expand...

As have I. Confirms what we knew prior to Derby. We didn't pay because we couldn't pay, not some administrative misunderstanding similar to Oxford.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kalman II
Howdentiger2 said:
Don't worry GFAW will be along soon. To tell us it's all made up rubbish and Acun is just a poor misunderstood fella and it's all "one family"
Click to expand...

Yare yare.

Our owner is clearly a bit of a Del Boy and even if he has the best of intentions and this was genuinely a product of naive stupidity, if the club gets punished either way then to me it’s no different to us being deliberately led to the same result through malicious activity.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kalman II and Howdentiger2
Steven Toast said:
Yare yare.

Our owner is clearly a bit of a Del Boy and even if he has the best of intentions and this was genuinely a product of naive stupidity, if the club gets punished either way then to me it’s no different to us being deliberately led to the same result through malicious activity.
Click to expand...

A bit of a del boy is putting it politely
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ric Glasgow
Pretty sure Baz said the club were positive and felt that the hearing had gone well <laugh>. Didn't he said it wasn't an 'appeal' and that it was a case of working with the EFL to find a way forward that suited everyone. What a load of bollocks, more PR spin.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Billy Crow and SW3 Chelsea Tiger
Mckechnie Orange said:
As have I. Confirms what we knew prior to Derby. We didn't pay because we couldn't pay, not some administrative misunderstanding similar to Oxford.
Click to expand...

Exactly, it was explained to us that we didn’t pay because we thought were owed that money and because we hadn’t, it relieved us of the obligation to pay our other debt. But that isn’t how it works. If you are selling your house to gain income, waiting on the sale to go through and meanwhile you go out and buy a new car, you can’t stave off the bailiffs by claiming that the house money isn't in your account so you didn’t have to pay for the car.

Acun isn’t daft and like Kalman said, it might be all the rage in Turkey to have debtors in hand in order to skirt paying loan fees (wouldn’t surprise me if we did it to Besiktas) but the EFL is a different box of cheese.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ric Glasgow and Mckechnie Orange
City’s entire argument for the appeal rested on a single email from Villa’s CFO that said we could maybe delay the payments for the loan fee and wages due to City being owed some money for Philogene.

This was after the club received official invoices from Villa in February, March, April and May. The club didn’t bother paying it until Villa’s CFO emailed to say ‘we can’t keep supporting your cash flow, pay us the amount in full by the next working day or we’re notifying the EFL’ <laugh>

****ing ridiculous way to run a lemonade stand, let alone a football club.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gtigerbackin hull and TinpotTiger
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
Back