Depends if Leverkusen have a better offer on the table, if so they won’t complain.
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Let’s give a 2 fingered “**** you” to the EFL and go and win the league.
Because we are not allowed during this punishment to agree to buy or pay a fee for any player, that is efl ruling.
I would be very happy with that one lol.
This is why I think we should appeal to CAS, not about the fee restriction in general as I don’t think the club have a leg to stand on, but regarding these two individual players and their registrations.
Both players permanently signed prior to 1st July and signed contracts to become employees of the club. We would have a much stronger case with CAS that the EFL are not following the spirit of the rules by preventing their registration due to the 1st July date than our appeal against the fee restriction in general.
If our obligation to buy Puerta was agreed last season, surely that obligation came into play as soon as the first 'mini window' opened this summer, before we had an embargo?
Why wouldn’t they? They’re still entitled to the fee we agreed for Puerta. Why would they waive that in favour of a drawn-out legal battle that may or may not get them a higher fee down the line?
Because they'd be double bubbling, they'd be wanting the €3.5m from us, plus whatever they'd be getting from Puerta's new club.
If they can get either the same or a higher fee than we were obligated to pay, surely they waive our fee owed to them?
For what it's worth I think it's ridiculous, he should be our asset to sell, even if he can't be registered to play in the EFL.
This all assumes that Baz actually knows what he's talking about regarding this situation, wouldn't surprise me if he's just doubled down to the max on his earlier assumption that the EFL can block transfers that have already happened.
Somewhere along the line UEFA can’t restrict his right to work in the EU and neither body can force us to pay a salary for a player the EFL say cannot work in the UK for us- I think ?
The way it works in Spain is that players who can’t be registered for whatever reason, usually financial like in Barcelona’s case, are still club employees. However, every contract in Spain has a mandatory release clause and failure to register a player by a certain deadline allows the player to activate his own release clause to become a free agent.
I don’t know how the EFL have the authority to arbitrarily order players who are already under contract at an EFL club to go back to their previous non-EFL clubs. The EFL don’t have the authority to tell German and Moroccan clubs that players they’ve already sold are now their employees again and that they have to pay them their old salaries.
Then surely he would be our asset to sell, albeit with a weaker negotiating position in any sale due to us not being able to register him?
Yes, it’s an issue for CAS to resolve, in my opinion. If we were to be successful, it would actually force the EFL to change their registration rules.
Good news is that all the hard work from Fergus paid off. He finally got the EFL to release their findings.
I wouldn’t have thought they’d have the power to pursue us for a fee and keep the player at the same time. The fee is for the player.
I would guess Puerta and Laalaa will end up like Vidal and Arda Turan at Barca where they have to just not play until they can be registered. That’s the only real world example I can think of with similar circumstances. Although Barca were already under embargo when they signed them and so they clearly agreed to just train for 6 months, so a little bit different to our situation.
Good point. Similar situations too. I don’t know why Cooper is adamant they’re on their way back to Leverkusen and FUS Rabat. Turan became a Barcelona player on 6th July 2015 but didn’t make his debut until 6th January 2016. He was still a Barcelona player in that time though. He wasn’t classed as an Atlético Madrid player between July 2015 and January 2016.
Does seem a crazy and confusing scenario, which hopefully we’ll get some answers to sooner than later.
I think it's the double down after saying it all summer.
As you say, how can the EFL force a German and Moroccan team to take a player back they've already sold?
.. unless as has been said the sale contracts in this situation can 'simply' be cancelled due to a standard clause saying it's all subject to successful registration or whatever.