Transfer Embargo

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Christophalophados said:
I'm still sitting firmly on the fence on this one, and will wait for more news and developments before getting hysterical about it, but...

Even if all ends up fine, like the late wages in May, the fact that it got this far doesn't reflect well on the club, and this can be the sort of thing that pushes a prospective signing, such as McBurnie, to choose another club instead.

We were told everything was absolutely fine at the beginning of the week, so did Acun lie, or didn't he know?
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What I can’t make sense of is that surely the FA couldn’t put us under a three window transfer embargo without an investigation, which would take time and would be transparent? It would be absolutely ridiculous to be bidding for McBurnie, Barry, O’Brien knowing this was to come out?
 
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Gone For A Walk said:
-> As far as Villa goes, maybe Acun was trying to include the loan fee as part of the deal to buy Barry. Arguing that the player was injured for most of the loan period, so Villa should be at least flexible. In addition using money due for Philogene as part of the Barry deal. Villa have their own issues with FFP, so maybe they just got pissed off with Acun trying to do the deals as above, so pulled the deal. I guess we will just have to wait and see what transpires.

-> This sounds very viable to me !!!

Except that allegedly Villa didn't blow the whistle on us.
Maybe when Villa were being looked at for their own FFP issues, it was spotted that we hadn't made the overdue payment, maybe Villa (and us) were perfectly happy with that situation as we were in the middle of ongoing negotiations (nobody seems to doubt that being true - not least the Athletic who actually reported the deal was done didn't they?), but those looking at Villa were obliged to report the overdue payment and the EFL were obliged to act.
That's the only reasoning that makes any sense to me atm. (and might be totally wrong of course).
However, it doesn't explain about local businesses allegedly not being paid on time ... if that is true and something that warrants concern (meaning beyond oversight or just pushing terms too far .. which isn't good practice granted).
That's why I'd like to hear HT (and MKO, M8) expand on what they have said they know. Surely the time now to spill their beans, not just keep saying "it's bad", "told you so", etc?
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Wasn’t it said the problems were the structure of the deal when the transfer was in doubt, would point to the loan and permanent deal not quite being aligned???
 
askewshair said:
What I can’t make sense of is that surely the FA couldn’t put us under a three window transfer embargo without an investigation, which would take time and would be transparent? It would be absolutely ridiculous to be bidding for McBurnie, Barry, O’Brien knowing this was to come out?
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It sounds like a wise rule to be able to enforce a temporary embargo whilst an investigation takes place, to stop irreparable damage.
 
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Ajbtiger said:
It sounds like a wise rule to be able to enforce a temporary embargo whilst an investigation takes place, to stop irreparable damage.
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The way I've read It is...

It was temporary on Monday and the Club was given a chance to respond,which they did but the EFL made it permanent today?
 
Ric Glasgow said:
The way I've read It is...

It was temporary on Monday and the Club was given a chance to respond,which they did but the EFL made it permanent today?
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Yeh I'm a bit confused about that part and the media reports don't really clear it up. I can't tell if we responded a bit late for the EFL's liking or if we responded and they're essentially still not happy with what we provided?
 
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askewshair said:
What I can’t make sense of is that surely the FA couldn’t put us under a three window transfer embargo without an investigation, which would take time and would be transparent? It would be absolutely ridiculous to be bidding for McBurnie, Barry, O’Brien knowing this was to come out?
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Oh I don’t know

If you know you’re going to be under an embargo you might as well be hugely ambitious with signings you know you’re never going to be able to sign.

…”if it wasn’t for those meddling EFL bods we’d have signed some great players”

:bandit:
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
Come on Jim.

If you're going to label people 'pant pissers' then you're clearly in the know....Spill:emoticon-0148-yes:
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I just don't get the panic. Can you imagine working with some of the people on here. Every time there is a slight issue they start flapping and panicking.

It happens at clubs all over the world at this time of year. Trust me, I've had to wait 6 months in the past for a League 2 club to pay me and over a year for a top flight RL club. Cash is very tight. No income but outgoings remain the same, this time of year is horrible for those running clubs. TV money isnt paid until september i think.
Acun has obviously pushed his luck with Villa and got burnt. I imagine, like most Turks, his approach to negotiations and business is arrogant. He has been a bit naughty with this one.

The noise coming out of the club is it is paid and all will be sorted. As others have pointed out why have we spent money on safe standing? Why has a seemingly credible Croation account stated the big transfer of the Croat player is going through?

People are just doing what they did months ago and throwing their hands in the air and flapping about things they have zero knowledge about.

It's a terrible look for the club and Acun needs to learn lessons about dealing with clubs. But let's just keep the powder dry for now eh, nobody has died.
 
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Jim the Tiger said:
I just don't get the panic. Can you imagine working with some of the people on here. Every time there is a slight issue they start flapping and panicking.

It happens at clubs all over the world at this time of year. Trust me, I've had to wait 6 months in the past for a League 2 club to pay me and over a year for a top flight RL club. Cash is very tight. No income but outgoings remain the same, this time of year is horrible for those running clubs. TV money isnt paid until september i think.
Acun has obviously pushed his luck with Villa and got burnt. I imagine, like most Turks, his approach to negotiations and business is arrogant. He has been a bit naughty with this one.

The noise coming out of the club is it is paid and all will be sorted. As others have pointed out why have we spent money on safe standing? Why has a seemingly credible Croation account stated the big transfer of the Croat player is going through?

People are just doing what they did months ago and throwing their hands in the air and flapping about things they have zero knowledge about.

It's a terrible look for the club and Acun needs to learn lessons about dealing with clubs. But let's just keep the powder dry for now eh, nobody has died.
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Not to mention the new on field managerial appointments, the behind the scenes managerial appointments, upgrades to the training facilities ...
 
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