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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jul 3, 2025.

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What’s gonna happen

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  2. Complete ****ing collapse

  3. It’ll all be ok

  4. Relegation

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  1. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

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    And there's a very good chance he won't be anywhere near this Football Club...Why would he,what's in it for him?.If I were him I wouldn't touch it with a barge-pole.

    Maybe we'll end up with some oil rich Arab which will lead to a huge ethical/moral debate:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  2. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

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    And who's to say his "I've got a squad of players with a potential value of £100 million" wasn't his opening salvo in his quest to sell?

    It was a very strange comment to make...
     
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  3. Leon T Trout AFC

    Leon T Trout AFC Well-Known Member

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    I think so and the key word here 'potential' - ambiguous/spuriously tenuously arguable = pure sales spin.
     
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  4. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

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    The pace between pubs doesn’t concern me, the pace their products are necked back does though.
     
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  5. Phinius T Bookbinder

    Phinius T Bookbinder Well-Known Member

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    Choosing between Acun and Ehab is like choosing which man you want your wife to run off with.
     
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  6. Brucebones

    Brucebones Well-Known Member

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    What did they say?

    Only thing I can find about anything Elder said when he left was about potential success going forward for Hull City.
     
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  7. HulltoHellandback

    HulltoHellandback Well-Known Member

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    Allegedly told someone in Brewdog that he thinks Acun will destroy us. Whether you believe that, make your own mind up!
     
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  8. Brucebones

    Brucebones Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, I thought it was the official statement.
     
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  9. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    No, but Shotas official statement alluded to something not quite right though no one could understand him anyway so it went under the radar.
     
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  10. Brucebones

    Brucebones Well-Known Member

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    That made me laugh :emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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  11. Help!

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    "Working and living on an island that is like a trip to wonderland for any coach and player makes me happy, and I am glad that Hull City gave me the opportunity to fulfil one of my career dreams. The process of building a club in a country with a rich history and culture like England, especially when it comes under new ownership, is incredibly difficult.

    “This time, the story did not turn out the way we all would have liked eight months ago when I made my Championship debut. I want to wish Acun and the Tigers great success in this path that awaits.

    “Unfortunately, we were not able to finish the job which we set out to do all that time ago. There are issues that need to be addressed, and more issues that will need the right approach in the future.

    "In the end, disagreements on a number of issues separated our positions from each other, which became the basis for making this decision.
    However, despite all this, I hope that Hull City will become a successful club.

    "I would like to thank the entire staff of the Tigers; coaching staff, co-workers, personnel of the first team, academy, and stadium. I would like to express my special thanks to the players with whom I worked during this period.

    "I thank the media for their candour in a difficult and intensive time. A massive special thanks goes to the fans, whose support and chant 'we've got Arveladze' will be one of the most cherished memories of my coaching career."
     
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  12. TigerKare

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    Baz: (BOLD inputted by myself!)
    The subject of Hull City’s finances has become a significant talking point in recent weeks. A spotlight has been placed on the club, its operation and most notably, its finances. It's felt like a body blow, in truth it's likely to be the best thing that could happen, providing what happens next is a course correction.

    With Acun Ilicali suggesting he would welcome investment back in May, to him saying the club were in good financial fettle at a press conference to officially unveil Sergej Jakirovic, it’s fair to say it’s been a tumultuous couple of weeks for all at the club, including the supporters.

    Throw into that the transfer punishment handed down by the EFL, City’s situation is anything but ideal and anything but the ideal preparation going into a season as important as this on the back of last term’s shambles. There has been raised concern following reports of City having significant transfer commitments outstanding of over £20m. Having outstanding transfer commitments is nothing new, and the majority of football clubs will be in a similar position.

    Those payments will be staggered across a period of time, and in some cases, for the duration of the player's contract. The level of debt there is nothing new, the club's ability to pay those commitments is the acid question. Ilicali says there is no issue, and the club can do so.

    Advancing transfer fees at a cost as City have done with deals such as the Jacob Greaves transfer to Ipswich Town, is also not unusual in football, but again reporting this has happened and monies have already been taken for the Jaden Philogene transfer to Aston Villa highlights a concern about the cash flow situation.

    The concerns raised by The Athletic, which also include a report former owner Ehab Allam is owed £3m as part of additional payments in the Jarrod Bowen deal, only strengthen the concern of some.

    It further muddies the water and raises understandable concern about whether there is enough money. Owing transfer money isn’t the issue, away from the hysteria, because that’s the industry. What must be settled, and quickly, is the money owed to local suppliers who will not have the luxury of being able to wait.

    We’re told that is happening, and will continue to be addressed. It must, and cannot be allowed to happen again. Put simply, if the stadium or training ground cleaners don’t get paid, their staff don’t get paid and cannot put food on the table. That has a direct impact on the people of Hull.

    Cashflow problems can exist, especially in the summer when a football club has little way of generating income, but that comes down to organisation and financial planning. That simply has to be remedied. There have been a flurry of issues, all put down to errors. Those errors must not be allowed to happen going forward. It’s either basic incompetence, or there are greater issues at play.

    Only Ilicali and those in charge of the club’s finances really know the answer to that. City, like the majority of clubs in the Championship are being run at a loss, and require significant investment from the owner to stay afloat. The issue the Tigers have is that the EFL have held concerns about their ability to keep up with payments for a period of time, and have now moved to try and do something about it.

    Their three-window fee restriction may well be reduced, it may get suspended for a period of time, but what it has done is brought the situation out into the full gaze of the public and that is perhaps not a bad thing, even if alarm bells are reaching fever pitch amongst a fan base thin on patience and marked by previous scars.

    Naturally, there will be a lot of concern and worry. After all, this is a fan base who have become all too familiar with financial struggles and stress over whether or not they will have a club to support in the past .Following from the Allam ownership, fans thought this was a new beginning. That belief amongst some is waning.

    Actions, not words, are needed from the owner. Now is not the time for statements, it’s the time for ensuring lessons have been learned. The EFL operates differently to the Turkish Super Lig. Regulations are different, and expectations amongst fans differ. City must get their outstanding bills settled, they must find a way out of what is a distinctly uncomfortable situation for Acun Ilicali and for those staff at the MKM Stadium having to deal with the day-to-day fall out from this, many of whom are worried.

    This is his most challenging period as owner. There’s a growing sense of patience wearing out, on social media at least, and he always said he would leave the club if he was not wanted.

    What fans want is to believe in a cause. To feel like they’re not being taken for mugs, because it will be they who are left to pick up the pieces. This situation can be turned around by the owner, but the skeletons inside the closet must be outed and City must be put on a solid financial foundation moving forward.

    Even if the ban is lifted, transfers and more importantly, salaries must be sensible. City cannot continue to pay mammoth wages, because they don’t have the income to support that. Their cloth must be cut accordingly. This summer has not gone the way many thought it would when Jakirovic was appointed, and until they can sign players, the Bosnian will be charged with getting the best out of a squad who struggled badly last term.

    He will hope for a quick resolution to a situation that is nothing if not concerning, so he can at least have a fighting chance come the start of the new season.
     
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  13. oozkan

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    Turkish clubs under embargo performed pretty well, for example former team of Sergej, a relegation candidate survived pretty well. Samsunspor, finished 3rd, going to Europa League.

    In Turkey the joke is "The owners/directors are so incompetent that the club is actually running better without their involvement."

    Well in the end Acun is a Turkish owner.
     
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  14. cheshireles

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    Utterly meaningless article, were are the questions posed to Acun by Baz, and importantly his answers?
     
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  15. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

    SW3 Chelsea Tiger Well-Known Member

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    very good article, a bit of context & hope amongst the panic
     
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  16. FLG

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    Agree. Little more than hitting his word count quota.
    Basically its a list of [insert issue] has happened and can't be allowed to happen again.
     
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  17. TIGERSCAVE

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    Good piece that from Baz... the first bold printed sentence I feel is key. in truth, I think any of us were offered 21st this season we would take it, whatever the situation with the appeal. All this do or die top 6 bollocks with players who promise to deliver but dont has to stop. Some of us are used to seeing not pretty not brilliant footballers wearing our shirt, but working with one purpose.
     
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  18. cheshireles

    cheshireles Well-Known Member

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    On this occasion Chelsea, I'm going to totally disagree.
     
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  19. Trumpton Tiger.

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    And Cooper brushes over the fact that the club receives the same income in June and July as it does in January from the membership payments, which, without being mentioned have increased over the summer.
     
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  20. willyfog

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    Any sell on fee received for Robertson is also to go straight into Ehabs pocket (or more likely onto the IOU).

    By the way in case anyone forgot - Ehab is a horrible, detestable man who is completely unlikeable in any way. I hope someone else comes in and buys the club from Acun, pays Ehab off and then bans him for life.

    Acun has always wanted the best for the club and fans but has been a fool driven by ego.
     
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