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  1. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Which is another reason to get them in now
     
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  2. Roland Deschain

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    I think Howe struggles to take a chance on overseas purchases. I guess he’s been burned before - wasn’t Danjuma a record signing during his time at B’mth? - and it’s why he’d rather stick with Murphy et al then chance his arm on someone from abroad. The problem is we HAVE to do that, look at the sheer amount of talents to come in for smaller sums like Murillo, Milenkovic, Huijsen, Adams, Mitoma, Verbruggen, Mbuemo, and on and on. Our last meaningful purchase remains the baffling Harvey Barnes.
     
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  3. Dr Venkman

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    is allergic to finding talent I think.... our big buys were already found and this is why Mitchell was getting at about recruitment.
     
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  4. Rum & Black for 2

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    Could have sworn EH isn’t in charge of recruitment. But why let that get in the way of a good whine?
     
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  5. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    He isn’t but I assume he must have a final sayZ
     
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    He will have a say, undoubtedly. But Mitchell is, I believe, the one who is being paid to have the final say. Otherwise what exactly is he there for?
     
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  7. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    I ask that question myself all the time because since he came in the only decent transfer activity I can think of is…… nothing.

    Mitchell needs to start doing stuff. Apparently we are definately selling Miggy to Atalanta.

    And we have rejected a 6m bid for Kelly who doesn’t want to leave anyways.
     
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  8. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace
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    Yeah, Howe confirmed in the presser that recruitment has always been a team effort and that he has 'a' say.

    But regardless of whether you credit/blame/exclude Howe for transfers, I think our overall recruitment since the takeover has been very good, with just a few real question marks.

    And I don't subscribe to the belief that we only go for British either.

    - Isak (foreign)
    - Bruno (foreign)
    - Gordon
    - Botman (foreign)
    - Tonali (foreign)
    All top quality 1st XI signings

    - Trippier
    - Wood (foreign)
    - Burn
    - Pope
    All what we needed at that time.

    - Tino
    - Hall
    - Osula (foreign)
    Questions from some fans at the time, but looking like they have potential to be very good.

    - Barnes
    - Kelly
    - Targett
    - Vlach (foreign)
    Questions over whether they are good enough, or even what we needed. Although I appreciate Targett has been unlucky with injuries.

    - Minteh (foreign)
    Never got to play and I know some think we should have kept him, but (commercially at least) a very good piece of business.

    My main concern with Howe isn't recruitment in, it's more whether (as others have mentioned) he will try to stand in the way of letting go of fringe players and those who are past their best, instead of cashing in and moving on
     
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  9. Obi Wan

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    Think Mitchell wants to focus more on finding young gems, so I'm not expecting to see.too many big name signings.
     
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  10. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    Yes pretty much agree with all of this.

    Im still disappointed with selling Minteh. But I understand why.

    Barnes albeit he is an ok player was the one I think we got wrong.
     
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  11. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    However, only 3 of those were playing abroad. The rest were playing in England
     
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  12. Obi Wan

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    5 but yeah, I get you.

    EDIT: 6
     
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  13. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    I'm not including Vlach not Trippier considering he's an England international

    So settle on 4. Deal?
     
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  14. Obi Wan

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    Nope!

    From what you pointed out, it's EITHER foreign (as in they were birn in and represent a forign country), OR signed from a foreign club.

    You can't mix and match to suit your argument. And I wasn't including Vlach in my 6 anyway.

    Bruno
    Isak
    Botman
    Tonali
    Minteh
    Trippier
     
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  15. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    If you're including Minteh your going to have to include all those youth players we signed from England. You can keep the 7 and we can increase the "from England" brigade to another level
     
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  16. Obi Wan

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    Ooh excellent point, thanks.

    Please add:
    - Pivas
    - Kuol
    - Heffernan
    - Salia
     
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  17. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    You can still have those. I'll even throw in Alex Murphy
     
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  18. Eddie's British Plodders

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    Just obviously choosing to ignore a huge amount of our transfer business since Howe has been in post <laugh>

    Biggest signing of his first transfer window in January 2022: Bruno Guimaraes (Brazilian from France - Howe must have temporarily conquered his struggles with taking chances on overseas purchases) - £35m
    Biggest two signings of Summer 2022: Isak and Botman (Swedish from Spain and Dutch from France - Howe now suffering from PTSD as a result of spending near £100m in foreign markets.) - £95m combined
    Biggest signing of summer 2023: Tonali (Italian from Italy - Brave Howe, having to constantly confront and overcome his debilitating fear of foreign purchases) - £56m
     
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  19. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Yeah and they are all ****. Bring on the English lads
     
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  20. Roland Deschain

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    Of course, but it'll be two years since we went abroad for a signing. After Tonali we then pissed £40m up the wall with Barnes, aimed £60m at Marc Guehi, are (according to some) already signed up on £25m+ James Trafford, and according to two journos' Brian Mbuemo is the number one target. This might well all change but it's undeniable that we have completely failed to discover talent. For the price of one Guehi, we could have gotten Kerkez, Murillo, Huijsen and Semenyo. It's my absolute biggest gripe with this club, a complete inability to find talent and seemingly from the manager not a lot of desire to do so.

    What's more baffling is our best players all came from abroad. Our English contingent have been a bit hit and miss particularly earlier this season.
     
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