yeah - its my opinion. oh, and that of every academy in the country - hence why there has been so much fuss. seriously, why do you think your club chose to try and get it?
Funnily enough, it makes a big difference in my opinion also!! I would rather be cat 1 with our current coaching staff than cat 2 with our current coaching staff! If you dont think it makes any difference weighty then i think you seriously need your head tested!!
arâ¢roâ¢gance (ˈær ə gəns) n. offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride; haughtiness. Sometimes, ar′roâ¢ganâ¢cy. [1275â1325; Middle English < Middle French < Latin]
Supers I don't doubt that you know a lot as you constantly want to tell us but it don't half make you an arrogant Cnut at times! Nothing personal but it needed to be said!
Anyway just to show how much of a closed shop it is, we lost most of our marks because of lack of our young players in the first team, yet how do we ever expect to do this if we aren't cat1 and the big boys nicking the best, so basically its a catch22 closed shop. As we all said earlier.
http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/sport/...ich_town_s_category_one_application_1_3701061 Just to show much supers is talking out of his backside, but still there will be his buddies who believe everything he says as gospel.
TBH Guru, that hilights everything Supers said, Klug even admits not getting the app was what cost you cat 1!
What about how supers rattling on about how we would have been kept informed. The killer quote is even klug said that if we were premier league it wouldn't have been a prob and we would have been ushered in. Closed shop.
And that isn't what he said, the premier league has now provided it, if it was so crucial it should have been provided when we applied. Basically we are cat1 in all but name, and if you have good coaches the kids will stay. Basically supers has been talking out his know it all backside and you lot fell for it.
The one thing that's annoyed me throughout this thread is how, because we fell short by such a ridiculously small amount, Supers seems to think that we were trying to do the bare minimum to qualify. I've not seen anything to suggest that in the reports I've read. I guess we could have done with that performance software though, but I don't think we didn't get it because we were being tight.
Supers was always quite obviously on the wum, mate, but instead of giving up when none of us were biting he made the mistake of perservering with his tedious wumathon, comedy gold though and 9.5/10 for effort!
Like Supers, I give up! You lot just say what you like, never let the truth get in the way of a good head up the arse!
But every stage has its audit. When you lot got your cat 1, we got our cat two. Both would have had an audit. If it was a cut and dried as you say, what with all the immediate detailed feedback and all the nudge-nudge-wink-wink “if you just did action x criterion y would be satisfied” that everyone has (according to you) pretended hasn’t been forthcoming, nobody would either fail or bother to be on tenterhooks waiting for the outcome. And I think I was a tad unfair before expressing bemusement that a Norwich fan might be surprised that someone might recall events from a massive four years ago. I should be more sympathetic, given you status. Though perhaps money could be made here. My memory is notorious in many circles beyond football message boards – perhaps I could be the Norfolk Derren Brown, what with my impressive skills of recalling season four years prior. I’m designing the publicity posters as I type. The cry will go around Norwich: “Someone coming up at the Theatre Royal can remember stuff that happened four years ago! Bloody hell! Cut down on the zit cream and start saving for tickets!”
dave, you're right - they do only see what they want to see! nothing i have said has been proven incorrect. it actually backs up what i said. this app that could have been provided by the premier league was there to be bought! you chose against that, running the risk that you would not have it in time. when i said it looked like you'd done it on the cheap it was clearly conjecture - quite how anyone can think that it wasn't up for debate is beyond me. but were the club kept up to date with the process? yes, absolutely they were throughout the audit, just like all the other clubs. i actually just played a round of golf with someone previously with the west ham academy (purely by chance) and he suggested ipswich probably tried to 'weasel' their way in on the cheap, saying if the guidelines were followed it was impossible to fail. weasel was his word, not mine by the way. 'Could the club have done more, or was the system – the Elite Player Performance Plan very much Premier League led – to blame? The reality is that it was probably a bit of both.'
obviously he is viewing it from a premier league clubs point of view, if that matters, which klug seems to be indicating might be relevant, though he seems to be suggesting it was more down to player performance in recent seasons.
My understanding is that we can apply again for Cat 1, be audited as early as spring next year. I would imagine with the 2-3 lads who look like they will break into the 1st team this season, an upgrade to the required software a score of around 80% looks a formality. Mistakes are always made and can be invaluable, so long as lessons get learnt and mistakes not repeated. I know Supers loves the sound of his own voice but most of what he says is not to wide of the mark. We made it difficult for ourselves by not "opting in" from the beginning!
EADT: http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich...ich_town_s_category_one_application_1_3701061 Xxxxx âIpswich Town had fallen an agonising â and frankly quite ridiculous â 0.3% short of the 75% mark required to attain top level Category One academy status. Of the 5,000 marks that they were judged on, they missed out by 17. The decision came from an independent auditor, a Belgian company. For weeks Ipswich had fought the decision behind the scenes, but there was no budging and, reluctantly, the club decided that â with the new season just a fortnight away â it is not worth going down a court of arbitration route. Such fine margins immediately led to questions among Blues supporters who many, letâs not forget, have been putting their hands in their pockets to help fund the clubâs push for academy excellence. Could the club have done more, or was the system â the Elite Player Performance Plan very much Premier League led â to blame? The reality is that it was probably a bit of both. âRight from the start when we knew we were going to go for Category One we knew it was going to be a difficult thing to do,â says visibly deflated academy director Klug, sitting at his desk at Playford Road. âYou have to get the 75% mark and there are some things we couldnât do anything about. There are 11 KPIs (Key Performance Indicators) where you get your marks and for 10 of them our average mark was 89%. The one we could do nothing about was âproductivityâ which dragged it down to 74.7%. âThere is nothing we could do about that because that was determined by the practise that has gone on over the last few years. We just havenât had as many professionals come through as we had in previous eras. âxxxxx Clearly the EADT are biased and Brian Klug is lying, itâs nowt to do with our terrible record of bringing through youths to our first team for the last decade, but a Guardiansita tin-foil-hat style evil capitalist conspiracy to spend as little as possible while exploiting the workers and hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma.
Exactly jonah, but of supers will always know more than anybody. Its amazing what you can pick up being a burger flipper at carrot road.
Well duh....obviously but we haven't and it's not the end of the world we should get it next season....no need for tears or calls for head testing...
