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Tottenham in the Summer transfer window

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Moorpheus19, May 13, 2012.

  1. NSIS

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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    Hmm, I wonder where they got that lead from?

    I expect a finder's fee!
     
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  3. Ghoddle10

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    As I said here a few days back, and I still think the same.

    If selling Modric gets us the players we need, then sell him.

    If we don't get in a striker before Aug 10, I'll be very disappointed.
     
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  4. Moorpheus19

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    Yes but how far does £27m (which is what RM are offering) get you these days in terms of quality strikers + a decent keeper? Not very - you could get 1 striker and 1 goalkeeper maybe and neither would be 'marquee'

    This is the problem introduced by the Man Citys, the Chelseas, the PSGs of the footballing world now - because in Chelsea's world for example, £27m barely gets you an unproven 20 year old attacking mid (albeit with great potential).

    I still maintain that nothing will happen for us in the transfer market until the Modric saga is resolved one way or the other. I think Adebayor was going to be signed anyway - but now with his additional demands, I can see Levy saying 'sod you then'
     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

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    Going by Transfermarkt valuations, £27m would get us Krul and either of Ba and Cisse, with some left over.

    Although I much prefer a double swoop for Javier Hernandez and Anders Lindegaard...
     
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  6. Boss

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    Which is why we shouldn't be sticking to this wage cap when we have a chance to sign Ade, as if Adebayor was our player and just had the season he had and was on the market, I expect we could sell him for near to 20 million yet we have a chance to sign him for 5 million so if we screw this up then it shows our business model is stopping us progressing on the field.

    Maybe we need to compromise and sell Modric for 30 million, get ade for 5 million and if the rest of the transfer fee is to be used to strengthen the squad then that is plenty to spend on signing two extra players to improve the team.

    Players like Modric, Berba, Cisse, Cabaye, Valencia and going back years, the goons picked up henry and rvp ...all these players were purchased for fees which were low for their actual talent and i'm sure there are many other examples.

    There are players in leagues all over europe that can be signed for decent fees but we need to have the scouting network in place to sign them yet our current system of "getting the best possible deal, to the last penny" and then "waiting till 1 week before the transfer system shuts" isn't productive.

    Yes sometimes we get a player like VDV, but how often is that going to happen?
     
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  7. NSIS

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    As has been said by some of us, this is a different world we are in nowadays. The City's Chavski's of the world have sent the market crazy. Indeed, if a totally unproven young lad from Brazil is sold for £25mil, then in a crazy market, like that, who says Modric isn't worth £40mil? He's certainly worth a bit more than a couple of million more than a totally untried, untested youngster.
     
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    From what I've head on here (I forget who said it, I'll presume Spurcat for now) our scouts were deployed in Holland and South America.

    Whilst the Dutch scout presumably set the Vertonghen deal in motion we haven't made any serious offers for any other Eredivisie players (we were linked to a couple more, but nothing happened), whilst our South American scout may have identified potential targets but we haven't signed a single player from there - Leandro became a saga, Oscar went to Chelsea, Uvini was loaned in but we've heard nothing since, we had another on trial, but the long and the short of it is that we haven't signed anyone.
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

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    Fee agreed for Pienaar, apparently.
    Time for a few more to join him through the exit door, hopefully.
     
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    Fee agreed with Everton for Pienaar, medical monday. SSN
     
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  11. No Kane No Gain

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    Good player, shame he didn't make it at Spurs. On the otherhand I'm glad we've gotten rid of another player who wasn't in our plans, just a few more to go and we can fully concentrate on improving our squad.
     
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    The market has changed but you only need to look at newcastle and they signed BA, Cisse and Cabaye for how much? its all about being aware and having the right scouts in place so theres no excuse for not attempting to find players of that quality for decent prices as clearly its still possible.
     
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    I would agree about Cisse and Cabaye, although Cisse may need another season for defenders to get used to his style of play, then he may not find it so easy. Ba, if I remember correctly, was allowed to leave on a free after failing a medical. So Newcastle took a bit of a punt there.
     
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    i absolutely despise Chelsea and all things associated..paying 25 million for Oscar...they deserve each other..thank god we didnt spend a penny on him....nothing he has done warrants such a deal....overated Brazilian..like so many living off the reps of past legends...thank god for Levy.
     
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    An example (according to Transfermarkt) of what £27m will get us
    Anders Lindegaard (£4m) + Javier Hernandez (£14m)
    Tim Krul (£6.5m) + Demba Ba (£11m) or Papisse Cisse (£15m)
    Tim Howard (£3m) + Nikica Jevavic (£7m)
    Thibaut Courtois (£7m) + Daniel Sturridge (£12.5m)

    These values are estimates so may increase or decrease in the real world - it values Leandro at £13.5m, and we offered more than that for him and were told it wasn't enough - but it is what it is.
     
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    Nikica Jevavic, he was another one we missed out on, 5 million, he would have been the ideal signing last january.
     
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    Bit better than Saha... oh man I was <doh>'ing for a while when that was announced.
     
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    The man who's led us to one Carling Cup in 11 years? While Chelsea have won trophy after trophy after trophy. I know which chairman I'd rather have and it ain't Levy. Another summer and once again 'the levy's run dry' and it's bye bye to our title dreams for another year already, while the 'new Big four' battle it out between them. We'll do well to trail in 5th.
     
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  19. notsosmartspur

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    I'm not sure it has changed, the top clubs I think have always in general, paid proportionally more for a player than best of the rest clubs. Had United Chelsea or City for example been interested in Cisse or Cabaye, their former clubs would have inflated the price, . No disrespect to Toon, because it includes us, but when the likes of the rest of us enquire on a player, they know they won't get away with a stupid valuation. Top clubs have always been able to pay double what we can afford. Today, the numbers involved make it more noticeable I think, in the past after the first 1million pound player, it wasn't long before the first 1.5 and 2 million players followed, thats a 50 and 100% increase. This disparity is getting ridiculous now though, as has been said, you can't value Modric at only 2million more than Oscar.
     
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