I agree. No-one likes the arrogance of most contemporary footballers, especially given how much they're paid, but I can't help but think Levy may have, for example, promised Modric a move under certain conditions, and then gone back on that promise. I wouldn't be surprised if the Southampton chairman/board has done something similar. You can't blame the players for being angry under those circumstances
When they want to leave Spurs, I do blame them. When they want to join it is a breach of their human rights.
They met with him and his advisers before the interviews and told him he werent for sale. We cant have it both ways as fans....we get irratated when our players do it yet excuse it if its anothers teams player doing it cos they want to join us. Modric was never told he could join chelsea...but he decided he wanted to go and we dug our heels in....thats all Southampton are doing...players shouldnt sign long contracts without proper legal get out clauses...if they do they are stupid
Why would they meet the advisers and player if he wasn't for sale?,a complete waste of time,i think YV is right
He demanded a transfer and they said no in the meeting...a meeting took place just like the ones with modric, berbatov etc etc... Where did the stories re him wanting to come to spurs come from...him and his advisers? or spurs? Its no less ****ty behaviour imo than if a spurs player did it...if eriksen was doing it we'd be slatting him but like I said we are excusing it cos he wants to come to us...hope he stays the **** away but obviously I am in a minority...
so,you don't rate him,if he's better than what we have in that position,i hope he comes,if they relent,like we said about Modric,why keep a unhappy player
There have been rumours of him "doing a Modric" - putting in a transfer request and refusing to play for Southampton. In these circumstances, I can't say I approve of that sort of behaviour from any player.
tbh I have no idea whether he is good or not...it is his behaviour that I do not rate. as for keeping an unhappy player...that may well be true but generally, players are acting like arrogant cocks and clubs relenting is simply making things worse. everyone knew that Liverpool were going to have to sell suarez this summer (the biting in the world cup was a good get out for pool not to lose face) if HE wanted to go even though he signed a new new contract a year ago...the same was true bale, modric, berbatov etc. look at vertongen... thought that barca wanted him and made statements about deserving CL football, acted like an arse and played dire , had an average world cup so no interest comes in from barca and he is now pledging loyalty to get a new contract...if he regains his form and barca come sniffing he will be demanding a transfer and being every bit the arse that was modric and berbatov etc.
For me its a little bit like shagging a girl who has a boyfriend. One day you may be her boyfriend and then you've gotta worry about whether she is gonna do the same thing to you.
If Soton had allowed the guy to speak to Spurs and said he could go if the price was right, and now they are telling him he cannot go regardless of the price, then he has grounds for complaint. Otherwise he should STFU.
The way football is, it won't surprise me if most of the players that leave saints are flops and Pochettino is shown up to be an average manager as right now everyone is feeling sorry for little Southampton but they have a small fortune in the bank and their new batch of youngsters could be even better so they may well have the last laugh if they manage to survive this season and not to be relegated.
It's purely speculation but what Levy said was probably similar to the clause Liverpool put in Suarez's contract, in that he'd said he'd consider offers but wouldn't be obliged to accept them. Where did you read that? I can't remember where but I saw something yesterday that suggested he wasn't aware of the situation until Kreuger's interview, hence the Tweet coming not long after it. Also, Schneiderlin has been with Southampton for a long time, through all the leagues and stayed loyal. They let Lambert leave for his boyhood club and they've let others leave that haven't served half so well as Morgan so it does seem like Southampton have handled Schneiderlin's situation very badly.
They finished 8th so you have to think some of these players arn't up to top team standard. When Villa had that great season where thy nearly got top 4 I don't remember many of those players going on to be world beaters
A few points for all of to remember: - Tim Sherwood completed the double over Pochettino and tactically outwitted him. - Their record against the top seven was distinctly underwhelming, just two victories â only one at home â and eight defeats in those 14 games. - They get praise for their defence yet they only conceded five fewer then us last season and that was a season where we got hammered regularly! - Pochettino had no plan B against teams that parked the bus - under Adkins they scored 1.36 goals a game. Under Pochettino 1.35. I'm not convinced at all by Pochettino and him being the next great manager or someone that will transform us as while he deserves credit for making saints a top 8 club, he walked into a club that needed little investment to make them "the best of the rest" and it feels like we have jumped into hiring him based on one impressive season. As for the saints players, some will be a success but overall huge fees for players that are average in ability and to add insult they want 20 million for J Rod? don't make me laugh!
On Pochettino - we need to get lucky and hire a manager who makes a big change to our club of the sort that only four or five managers have managed over my lifetime. Pochettino is very unlikely to be that person but no more so than anyone else we hire. Nicholson and Shankly hardly had major track records before they transformed Spurs and Liverpool and even Ferguson and Wenger only had success in much smaller leagues. There is no way of identifying such a person just as you can't possibly tell at age 17 which of Bale, Walcott and Oxlade Chamberlain were going to be world class. All managers are average except for a tiny few. On the Southampton players - they've all gone for about twice whet they are worth so far for no good reason I can think of.
"Their record against the top seven was distinctly underwhelming, just two victories – only one at home – and eight defeats in those 14 games." Taking out the head to heads, the stats against the rest of the top 7 were : Soton : W2 D4 L6 F11 A22 Spurs : W2 D3 L7 F7 A27
Valid points Power but these where/are special managers. There is more chance of Pochettino being as good as Martin O'Neil, who remember everyone wanted to be England manager at one point or even our manager based on what he done at Villa. Of course I'm not saying you have to have a background of sustained success to be a great fit elsewhere but the way some fans are acting is that Pochettino is this special manager in the making. We seem to make too many decisions based on players/managers being "the flavour of the month". I hope I'm wrong. I want to be wrong on Pochettino. I Just believe he is going to a failure and it won't be long before fans are making excuses for him.
Actually Boss, I think that hiring managers and signing players is more often than not based on prejudice rather than fact, which is why I'd rather we did less of both. I do think it is easier to tell when you've got a 'non-special' manager and a 'non-special' player so sacking these does little harm. But I'd keep them all longer than Levy tends to although I'd really like to know what they promise him when they come through the door.
