Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Nottingham Forest

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Sunday 28th August 4.30pm
Premier League
City Ground​

No injury news yet, but there are some claims that Romero is back, while Reguilon is now injured.
Neither side has any suspensions.

Lineups for each side's last league game:

Spurs: Lloris; Sanchez, Dier, Davies; Royal, Bentancur, Hojbjerg, Perisic; Kulusevski, Kane, Son.
Subs: Forster, Doherty, Lenglet, Tanganga, Sessegnon, Bissouma, Gil, Moura, Richarlison.

Forest: Henderson; Worrall, McKenna, Cook; Williams, O'Brein, Mangala, Toffolo; Lingard; Johnson, Awoniyi.
Subs: Hennessey, Biancone, Kouyate, Yates, Freuler, Gibbs-White, Mighten, Dennis, Surridge.

Ref: Craig Pawson. VAR: Stuart Atwell.

TV: Sky Sports.

How would you like to line up for this one?
 
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The Djed Spence Derby that probably won’t feature Djed Spence.

Richarlison for Son is the definite change I’d make. The Brazilian’s looked very lively when coming on, a stark contrast to Son who’s looked dead.

Romero possibly back in for Sanchez if he’s fit. Wouldn’t mind seeing Lenglet given a go too but not sure that’ll happen.

Bissouma shouldn’t be too far off of at least getting a solid 45 behind him too. If any CM isn’t impressing by HT then that could be a good time to get him properly involved in.
 
I think it's possible that this is the game that Conte will start to introduce a couple of the new signings as he prepares for the coming CL fixtures, or will he just use them to reduce game time and lighten the load?
 
My starting XI ...


Executive summary :

LLoris
Sanchez Romero Davies
Doherty Bentancur Bissouma Perisic
Spence Richarlison Son


Rationale
(long - read at the risk of your waste of time ... :) ) :

I have been thinking about this game since
the PL fixtures were announced, and my
reasoning is based on the following :

1. Spurs have a general good results return from
promoted sides

2. An away game, so a debatable selection not
doing so great does not have the home
crowd on their back if their performance is meh

3. with 5 subs allowed this season, there is far
more scope to repair anything arising from 2

4. Conte IMHO needs to get into the groove of
serious squad rotation, and with the Spanners game
needing the strongest possible starting XI, this
is the first game to do so

5. And as an extra incentive, this fixture will
be repeated as a League Cup R3 tie (so we have
an opportunity to see in advance what kind of
starting XI could also prevail in that game)


The players :


- Sanchez

Needs game time in his legs.
I trust Romero ro marshal him to a more disciplined
performance than Dier did last week.


- Doherty

Needs game time in his legs.
Hopefully he can quickly return to that vein
of form he was in last season before the Villa thuggery


- Bissouma

The Bentancur/Hojbjerg pairing IMHO has been found wanting
in recent times : the last two games this season,
and the games last season against the 'Bs' .

I want to see if Bissouma can beast the MF a la Wanyama,
giving Bentancur the time to play his passes, or
drive forward with the ball a la Dembele, pulling
the opposition MF out of shape.


- Perisic

More game time in his legs.
I thought this game would be his first start,
but after last week and his assist rate from set play,
IMHO he is good for at least 60 mins.


- Spence

The most controversial selection.
This would ba a real "baptism of fire" for the boy,
but he spent a whole season playing this level
of opposition (tis not Citeh away) .


- Richarlison

Perfect game to give him a start, given Spurs are
+7 pts on the "season compass" . More so given that
Kane is far from his traditional 'summer hangover'
form. A good performance also puts pressure for
a starting XI place against the Spanners on ...


- Son

Who needs to get himself in gear ASAP.
As Kane forever shows, last season is gone, and the
performance right now is all that counts.
 
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The RDBD said:
My starting XI ...


Executive summary :

LLoris
Sanchez Romero Davies
Doherty Bentancur Bissouma Perisic
Spence Richarlison Son


Rationale
(long - read at the risk of your waste of time ... :) ) :

I have been thinking about this game since
the PL fixtures were announced, and my
reasoning is based on the following :

1. Spurs have a general good results return from
promoted sides

2. An away game, so a debatable selection not
doing so great does not have the home
crowd on their back if their performance is meh

3. with 5 subs allowed this season, there is far
more scope to repair anything arising from 2

4. Conte IMHO needs to get into the groove of
serious squad rotation, and with the Spanners game
needing the strongest possible starting XI, this
is the first game to do so

5. And as an extra incemtve, this fixture will
be repeated as a League Cup R3 tie (so we have
an opportunity to see in advance what kind of
starting XI could also prevail in that game)


The players :


- Sanchez

Needs game time in his legs.
I trust Romero ro marshal him to a more disciplined
performance than Dier did last week.


- Doherty

Needs game time in his legs.
Hopefully he can quickly return to that vein
of form he was in last season before the Villa thuggery


- Bissouma

The Bentancur/Hojbjerg pairing IMHO has been found wanting
in recent times : the last two games this season,
and the games last season against the 'Bs' .

I want to see if Bissouma can beast the MF a la Wanyama,
giving Bentancur the time to play his passes, or
drive forward with the ball a la Dembele, pulling
the opposition MF out of shape.


- Perisic

More game time in his legs.
I thought this game would be his first start,
but after last week and his assist rate from set play,
IMHO he is good for at least 60 mins.


- Spence

The most controversial selection.
This would ba a real "baptism of fire" for the boy,
but he spent a whole season playing this level
of opposition (tis not Citeh away) .


- Richarlison

Perfect game to give him a start, given Spurs are
+7 pts on the "season compass" . More so given that
Kane is far from his traditional 'summer hangover'
form. A good performance also puts pressure for
a starting XI place against the Spanners on ...


- Son

Who needs to get himself in gear ASAP.
As Kane forever shows, last season is gone, and the
performance right now is all that counts.
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A thought provoking post that details what was crossing my mind which is why I suggested that Conte may make changes. I can't see it being wholesale but Bissouma and Richarlison starting would not surprise me.
 
Spurf said:
A thought provoking post that details what was crossing my mind which is why I suggested that Conte may make changes. I can't see it being wholesale but Bissouma and Richarlison starting would not surprise me.
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No doubt my selection at face value is a bit "audere est facere"
(though not even close to that infamous Arry 2010 League Cup
starting XI against them lot :) ) .

Apart from the practical considerations, consider
the effects on the other PL clubs if such a selection
is fielded and a decent result/performance arises.
 
The RDBD said:
My starting XI ...


Executive summary :

LLoris
Sanchez Romero Davies
Doherty Bentancur Bissouma Perisic
Spence Richarlison Son


Rationale
(long - read at the risk of your waste of time ... :) ) :

I have been thinking about this game since
the PL fixtures were announced, and my
reasoning is based on the following :

1. Spurs have a general good results return from
promoted sides

2. An away game, so a debatable selection not
doing so great does not have the home
crowd on their back if their performance is meh

3. with 5 subs allowed this season, there is far
more scope to repair anything arising from 2

4. Conte IMHO needs to get into the groove of
serious squad rotation, and with the Spanners game
needing the strongest possible starting XI, this
is the first game to do so

5. And as an extra incentive, this fixture will
be repeated as a League Cup R3 tie (so we have
an opportunity to see in advance what kind of
starting XI could also prevail in that game)


The players :


- Sanchez

Needs game time in his legs.
I trust Romero ro marshal him to a more disciplined
performance than Dier did last week.


- Doherty

Needs game time in his legs.
Hopefully he can quickly return to that vein
of form he was in last season before the Villa thuggery


- Bissouma

The Bentancur/Hojbjerg pairing IMHO has been found wanting
in recent times : the last two games this season,
and the games last season against the 'Bs' .

I want to see if Bissouma can beast the MF a la Wanyama,
giving Bentancur the time to play his passes, or
drive forward with the ball a la Dembele, pulling
the opposition MF out of shape.


- Perisic

More game time in his legs.
I thought this game would be his first start,
but after last week and his assist rate from set play,
IMHO he is good for at least 60 mins.


- Spence

The most controversial selection.
This would ba a real "baptism of fire" for the boy,
but he spent a whole season playing this level
of opposition (tis not Citeh away) .


- Richarlison

Perfect game to give him a start, given Spurs are
+7 pts on the "season compass" . More so given that
Kane is far from his traditional 'summer hangover'
form. A good performance also puts pressure for
a starting XI place against the Spanners on ...


- Son

Who needs to get himself in gear ASAP.
As Kane forever shows, last season is gone, and the
performance right now is all that counts.
Click to expand...

That is a wild selection, lol.

I’m optimistic to see one or two changes, with Richarlison being the one most deserving of a start but definitely don’t see five or six, we’d get a disjointed performance with that many changes.
 
Dier Hard said:
That is a wild selection, lol.
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How so ??
All bar Spence and Perisic are PL proven, in general or for Spurs.

And Perisic IMHO, from his start last reek and his assist rate
to date has shown he should be good for a 60 min stint.


"but definitely don’t see five or six, we’d get a disjointed performance with that many changes."

If you make the call in advance (as I have) , then you
have plenty of training sessions beforehand where
that starting XI play together.
 
The RDBD said:
How so ??
All bar Spence and Perisic are PL proven, in general or for Spurs.

And Perisic IMHO, from his start last reek and his assist rate
to date has shown he should be good for a 60 min stint.
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For a start, making multiple changes rarely ever works out.

Then dropping the two in-form forwards is a huge head scratcher. Even more so when one’s being dropped for a RWB.

Dier is the leader at the back and so it’s unlikely Romero would have a greater influence on Sanchez. Romero’s an excellent defender and our best on paper but he’s also a hot head, I don’t see him being one to marshal other players.
 
Blue and White said:
Romaine Mundle has been training with the first team.
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If you were writing a play and named one of your characters Romaine Mundle the readers might think you weren't very good at creating names and should come up with something more believable.
 
Dier Hard said:
For a start, making multiple changes rarely ever works out.
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I've seen Citeh make wholesale changes in PL
starting XIs, and get results

Are Spurs not aspiring to do similar with the squad
currently assembled ??

Or perhaps you believe that only Pep the false messiah
is capable of doing such things (ie Conte is his squad
management inferior) .


"Then dropping the two in-form forwards is a huge head scratcher. Even more so when one’s being dropped for a RWB."

I am "dropping" nobody.

I am saying that in a 5 sub regime, I trust the two "in-form forwards"
to inflict as much damage in the last 30 mins of a game
as they would in the first 60. On that basis, I wish to
give other options a starting XI opportunity in attack, to see
if they front up for the benefit of the squad as we would hope.


"Dier is the leader at the back and so it’s unlikely Romero would have a greater influence on Sanchez.
Romero’s an excellent defender and our best on paper but he’s also a hot head,
I don’t see him being one to marshal other players."

So if the choice was Dier + Sanchez, or Romero + Sanchez,
you would always choose the former ??

I could live with that for this game.
 
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