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Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United- Official Build Up / Matchday Thread

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  1. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    I agree with this line up. I'd go a bit more 4-4-1-1 though with Tiote & Anita told to sit deep and break up play and Cabaye having a touch less defensive responsibliity but to still press high where possible.

    Gouffran and Sissoko told to repeat their Chelsea performance with Ben Arfa, Cisse and Shola on the bench to bring on if we're chasing a goal in the last twenty minutes. Our game plan should be a complete replica of our Chelsea game plan. I really hope Pardew doesn't revert to 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. Just a simple 4-4-1-1 where everybody is clear about their duties/responsibillities will be fine by me.

    We shouldn't kid ourselves though, Spurs are a good team with some great midfield talent. I personally hope Lennon gets the nod on the LW for them as I'm more than confident that Debuchy could handle him. I also think with Townsend on the right that would suit Santon as Townsend would cut in and Santon is stronger with players coming inside him than he is when they try and go on the outside.

    Provided Spurs don't suddenly click in to gear (if they do there'd be little we could do to prevent them running riot) and continue to set up as they have been I reckon we could nick a 1-2 victory.
     
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  2. Keith Fit

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    I'd snap your hand off for a draw, I don't think we can win this game.

    I wouldn't want Cabs going forward willy-nilly. I've found that when he's encouraged to "number 10" his game, it removes some of his ability to dictate the tempo. Against Spurs, if he's too far up the pitch, he'll run into Sandro or Paulinho pretty much consistently and his impact will be lessened. I'd rather Tiote was kept back to his defensive third, and Cabs/Anita 'shared' the middle, as it were. Imagine those two protected and dropping off/heading forward/popping off five yard passes than spraying a 40 yarder....mouthwatering threesome and it takes out Sissoko's problem of being a bit of a passenger in the middle. Once one is injured, sure, move Sissoko inside and play Benny wide right instead, or Jonas if needs be. But I don't think we need players in the hole, because both Gouffran and Sissoko can drift infield a bit. What we need to work on is better understanding from the players so that when Gouff's attacking, the midfield shifts and Sissoko understands if he needs to attack the box or remain disciplined. I don't know if RM is Sissoko's best position, but it's where I'd keep him. If he or Gouff struggle at all, I'd bring HBA on either side to run infield. I simply wouldn't touch Remy, he's our only Premier League striker. Goals or not, he's first name on the team sheet and up front on his own or in a front two is his only position.

    If we play him left of a three, you lose that bit of discipline that you get from Gouffran or Sammy Ameobi. In turn, you lose a bit of effectiveness from Santon as well. Same goes for the right with Ben Arfa and Sissoko. So vs Spurs when there's that attacking three behind the striker, I'd be happy to be more disciplined, sit a bit more and then hit harder after the break. It's a nice identity for the team - try and have at us in the first 45, but be wary of us on the counter. If you haven't scored, then you're probably going to get beat, because we're coming after you in the second half!
     
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  3. Agent Bruce

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    How's everybody getting to the game? Coach, train or driving down?
     
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    Newcastle United visit Tottenham Hotspur at White Hart Lane in the 11th Round of matches of the 2013-14 Premier League season on Sunday 10th November 2013 (KO 12:00).

    Newcastle come into the match in 9th place in the Table on 14 points with Spurs in 4th place on 20 points.

    This will be the 151st time the two clubs have met.

    The first meeting came in the old second round (today's fourth round) of the FA Cup in February 1905 with Newcastle drawing 1-1 at White Hart Lane before winning the replay at St James' Park 4-0. To date, the clubs have met 9 times in the FA Cup.

    The clubs met for the first time in the Football League in November 1909 in the First Division with Newcastle winning 1-0 at St James' Park and completing the 'double' over Spurs with a 4-0 win at White Hart Lane in March 1910.

    Tottenham's first win over Newcastle came in a First Division match at White Hart Lane in November 1912 with Jimmy Cantrell scoring the only goal of the match.

    There were further meetings in the First Division up to season 1933-34 with honours generally pretty even.

    An FA Cup 4th round match in January 1935 was won 2-0 by Spurs at White Hart Lane with George Hunt (Spurs' record goalscorer until Bobby Smith) scoring both goals.

    The next 12 meetings between the clubs came in the Second Division of the Football League either side of World War Two from 1935-36 to 1947-48. These dozen matches were the only League games contested between Spurs and Newcastle outside the Top Flight of English Football.

    The 1950-51 season saw Spurs win their first Football League Championship and in the process they did the 'double' over Newcastle winning 7-0 at home and 1-0 away. The 70,336 spectators at White Hart Lane for that emphatic 7-0 win were the largest crowd at any Spurs v Newcastle fixture in history.

    Spurs beat Newcastle United in the 1952 Charity Shield 2-1 at White Hart Lane with Les Bennett and Peter 'Spud' Murphy scoring the goals which won the silverware.

    The first Football League Cup meeting came in the Semi-Finals in January 1976 with John Pratt scoring the winning goal at White Hart Lane in the first leg but Newcastle winning 3-1 at St James' Park despite a Don McAllister goal to advance to the Wembley Final.

    Newcastle United, along with West Ham United, were the first clubs to be promoted to the Premier League for the 1993-94 season and Spurs won the first match against Newcastle in the competition 1-0 away at St James' Park with a Teddy Sheringham goal. The Magpies had their revenge at White Hart Lane in December with a 2-1 win.

    An FA Cup Semi-Final at Old Trafford in April 1999 was won 2-0 by Newcastle after extra time.

    Newcastle lost their Premier League status at the end of the 2008-09 season but won promotion at the first attempt managed by former Spurs player and assistant manager Chris Hughton. Hughton was sacked under contraversial circumstances in December 2010 and Alan Pardew was appointed as Newcastle's new manager.

    The fixture at St. James' Park in October 2011 resulted in a 2-2 draw. Rafael van der Vaart opened the scoring from the penalty spot after 40 minutes. Demba Ba pulled Newcastle level three minutes into the second half but Jermain Defoe's 68th minute goal looked like securing all three points. Substitute Shola Ameobi scored a late equaliser for Newcastle. The reverse fixture at White Hart Lane in February 2012 resulted in a comprehensive 5-0 win for Spurs with goals from Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Louis Saha (2), Niko Kranjcar and Emmanuel Adebayor.

    The opening match of the 2012-13 season at St James' Park resulted in a 2-1 win for Newcastle. Demba Ba put United ahead after 54 minutes with Jermain Defoe equalising for Spurs after 76 minutes. Ben Arfa was fouled by Aaron Lennon and he scored from the penalty spot for the winner on 80 minutes.

    Spurs won their home League game in February 2013 2-1 with two goals from Gareth Bale, the first coming after 5 minutes from a free-kick and the second after 78 minutes. Yoan Gouffran had levelled things for Newcastle mid-way through the first half.

    Newcastle United have won 55 of the 150 matches played so far with Tottenham Hotspur winning 63 and the remaining 32 games drawn.

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    Full History of Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United Matches 1905-2013

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    They Played for Newcastle & Spurs ....

    Ossie Ardiles (Spurs player & manager, Newcastle manager)
    Sebastien Bassong
    Ted Birnie
    Kevin Bond (Assistant manager at both clubs)
    Garry Brady
    Ivor Broadis
    Keith Burkinshaw (Spurs manager, Newcastle coach)
    Sol Campbell
    Stephen Carr

    Jesse Carver (Newcastle player, Spurs coach)
    Ray Clarke
    Les Ferdinand
    John Fleming
    Ruel Fox
    Tony Galvin (Spurs player, Newcastle asst. manager)
    Peter Garland
    Paul Gascoigne
    David Ginola

    Bert Gosnell
    Chris Hughton (Spurs player & asst. manager, Newcastle manager)
    Jim Iley
    Jermaine Jenas
    John McTavish
    Peter McWilliam (Newcastle player, Spurs manager)
    Paul Moran
    Taffy O'Callaghan
    Alan Pardew (Spurs loanee, Newcastle manager)
    Scott Parker
    Wayne Routledge
    Louis Saha
    Kevin Scott
    Mark Stimpson

    Allan Taylor
    Archie Turner
    Chris Waddle
    Jonathan Woodgate

    Charlie Woods (Chief scout with both clubs)

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    Newcastle United Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2013-14

    Tottenham Hotspur Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2013-14

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  5. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Mate, there's lots of bookies to pick from, from day to day some will be better... some worse.
    This is merely done so people can get a feel for the type of price they may get.
    Personally I shop around on the day then stick them on at the best price.
     
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  6. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Fella, I'd like to include tables like that in the matchday thread.. can you advise which site they are from and how I go about pasting them in?
    Always looking to improve things :)
     
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  7. THFC6061

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    It's all from my own site...

    Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United Match History 1905 to 2013

    ...you're more than welcome to use whatever you want from it.
     
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  8. Albert's Chip Shop

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  9. lady-eleanor

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    Pub <party> going for a draw.
     
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  10. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

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    At least you'll be able to walk there.


    Might need a taxi back home though.
     
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  11. Rafa's Championship Party

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    I'd take that think we'll lose this one, probably 1-0.
     
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  12. Agent Bruce

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    Anybody know who's putting a coach on that might have a spare seat on it?

    Not the BP, they're fully booked it seems.
     
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  13. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Good chance you guys won't leave WHL without at least a point.

    You lot are on a high after Chelsea and Remy seems to be on fire. We've been great defensively but lame on the attacking front so providing we keep Remy quiet, it'll probably be a 0-0 I reckon, unless you wanna give us a penalty? <laugh>
     
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  14. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Good chance you guys won't leave WHL without at least a point.

    You lot are on a high after Chelsea and Remy seems to be on fire. We've been great defensively but lame on the attacking front so providing we keep Remy quiet, it'll probably be a 0-0 I reckon, unless you wanna give us a penalty? <laugh>
     
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  15. Agent Bruce

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    Good chance I wont get there.

    We'll give you a penalty if you like though, we'll charge you double the next time you come up here.
     
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  16. Rafa's Championship Party

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    My dad was saying there's a company who were advertising seats for Palace, don't know the name but wasn't Back Page might be worth giving them a shot.
     
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  17. Agent Bruce

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    Would do if I knew who they were.
     
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  18. Rafa's Championship Party

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    Did you get a programme from Saturday's match.
     
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  19. Agent Bruce

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    Yes.
     
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  20. Sammy's Silky Skills

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    Hope Tiote is fit mind
     
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