Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Middlesbrough

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<laugh> There used to a steady stream of Welsh Dressers crossing the Severn Bridge on the roofs of Volvos, as the antique dealers plundered Wales for the Dressers for not much and bringing them back to London to sell at inflated prices.
 
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Spurf said:
<laugh> There used to a steady stream of Welsh Dressers crossing the Severn Bridge on the roofs of Volvos, as the antique dealers plundered Wales for the Dressers for not much and bringing them back to London to sell at inflated prices.
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Now you say that, it does sound familiar.

They still do pretty well on ebay but they have to be painted and nothing like the 80's....

Maybe we should stick Eric Dier on the roof of a Volvo and drive him over the Severn Bridge at high speed.. Personally, I'd pay good money to see it.
 
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Dier Hard said:
The thing I'm most annoyed with about Parrott - and it's been a problem with young players for years now - is that it's not about him or others not featuring for the first team, it's the fact they're not playing at all. KWP, Skipp, Parrott and even Tanganga until his recent starts haven't been playing any kind of football. If they're not gonna feature for the first team they should 100% play for the U23s OR be sent on loan. Not playing a young player is ****ing pointless because they'll never develop, I thought this was a Poch thing but Jose's done the exact same.

I'm hoping the reasoning for Parrott not being involved is because Jose wants to force Levy's hand, whether that be Piatek or this new lad, Ze Luis, we absolutely need a new senior striker and so if Jose has somewhat of a fear that if Parrott was to score a goal against a Championship side it'd give too much confidence in the board to think a striker was not needed, I can get behind Jose's thought process there.

But in general, these young lads have to play, first team, U23s or loans, keeping them around doing nothing other than training will not only **** with them mentally but as we've seen with KWP, it ruins them physically too because he still plays like an 18 year old such is his lack of experience.
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Brilliant post.

It's the same story with Foyth. Still makes the same mistakes he was making 2 years ago.
 
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Perhaps 2-1 and a goalie screw up is an omine. I remember beating Arsenal 1-0 in the FA Cup with Pat Jennings screwing up for Arsenal and we went on to win the Cup...…!
 
Left on the Shelf said:
Quote a bizarre reaction considering he must have known he'd been struggling to keep up for a good 20 minutes. Maybe just his pride was hurt....
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His performance hurt my pride...but I kept it together (just).

If he accepted that he's currently not cutting it, maybe...just maybe, he'd do something to rectify it?

Repeatedly playing badly isn't doing anything for him or us. Skippy should have played last night.
 
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Dier Hard said:
The thing I'm most annoyed with about Parrott - and it's been a problem with young players for years now - is that it's not about him or others not featuring for the first team, it's the fact they're not playing at all. KWP, Skipp, Parrott and even Tanganga until his recent starts haven't been playing any kind of football. If they're not gonna feature for the first team they should 100% play for the U23s OR be sent on loan. Not playing a young player is ****ing pointless because they'll never develop, I thought this was a Poch thing but Jose's done the exact same.

I'm hoping the reasoning for Parrott not being involved is because Jose wants to force Levy's hand, whether that be Piatek or this new lad, Ze Luis, we absolutely need a new senior striker and so if Jose has somewhat of a fear that if Parrott was to score a goal against a Championship side it'd give too much confidence in the board to think a striker was not needed, I can get behind Jose's thought process there.

But in general, these young lads have to play, first team, U23s or loans, keeping them around doing nothing other than training will not only **** with them mentally but as we've seen with KWP, it ruins them physically too because he still plays like an 18 year old such is his lack of experience.
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Parrott was playing football in the first half of the season, as he started in the UEFA U23 matches (as did Eyoma) so he;s not quite comparable with Skipp or KWP this season, but this does keep coming back to how training with the first team is seen as better for a youngster's development than playing for the U23s, and that throws up all manner of questions - and we can make educated guesses about some of the answers
 
humanbeingincroydon said:
Parrott was playing football in the first half of the season, as he started in the UEFA U23 matches (as did Eyoma) so he;s not quite comparable with Skipp or KWP this season, but this does keep coming back to how training with the first team is seen as better for a youngster's development than playing for the U23s, and that throws up all manner of questions - and we can make educated guesses about some of the answers
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Ist question what constitutes 'training'? It will be different with each manager I presume as it must be the largest part of the footballers time. Anybody know what they do?
 
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Ist question what constitutes 'training'? It will be different with each manager I presume as it must be the largest part of the footballers time. Anybody know what they do?
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One thing that is safe to presume is that training with the first team under Poch did improve the players' strength and fitness, which could be seen in the physical transformation of some youngsters such as Winks and Foyth from the lanky players in their first seasons to bulking up with muscle after a year's worth of training
 
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