Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United

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  1. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member
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    Still mashing the alternative tables. COYS :emoticon-0165-muscl
     
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  2. BajanSpur

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    Tactics cost us yet again.
    Evidently there's more sitting and laying back
    on the pitch these days at Spurs then there is
    in Madam George's Parlour.
     
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  3. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard it's SPURS

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    It's a combination for me to be honest.

    The one thing I'd actually hate is for us to bring a new manager in and some of these useless mugs upping their levels for a week or two and persuading the new guy to stick with them. There's a solid 7 or 8 that need to **** off through the door with Jose. They failed under Poch, they're failing under Jose and frankly they're a cancer on this club just as much as the manager is.

    As for Levy, it's hard to see what he does now. He's overseen a massive downturn for about three years and just about all of his decisions haven't paid off in the meantime, which have then exacerbated the decline.

    Spurs as a whole is an utter **** show and if I could hit the reset button (barring Harry Kane and one or two others), I absolutely would.
     
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  4. littleDinosaurLuke

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    Mourinho interview coming up.

    Thrown under the bus odds:

    2/5 Lloris
    Evens Aurier
    13/8 Reguilon
    2/1 Dier
    5/1 bar
     
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  5. C. Kane

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    I'm not aware of too many Spurs fans who were behind the decision to appoint Jose. The vast majority who were seemed to be under the age of 16 and very vocal on social media.

    As for the summer, I agree - it hasn't panned out nearly as well as was hoped for. Even the two most promising signings (Reg and Hojbjerg) haven't returned anything more than a slight improvement on who they replaced. Rodon was an investment for the future, Hart was a stocking filler, Bale was always a gamble, Doherty has been possibly our worst signing since Paulinho and Vinicius has been chronically under-utilised.

    I think in hindsight what has exacerbated their lack of impact is that established players have also been a major disappointment this season. Dier, Dele, Sanchez, Winks and Toby have continued to decline at a rate of knots. NDombele simply isn't worth the money we spent on him and I won't hear a word otherwise. Lo Celso is made of lolly pop sticks. Sissoko now can't even run around a lot, let alone play football.

    The whole thing is a mess. The only players who have shown consistent improvement this season and can actually look back on it with pride intact are Kane and Lucas.
     
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  6. No Kane No Gain

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    Pogba should have been sent off? Same old Jose, blaming black players for the result <laugh>
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

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    For elbowing Aurier? It's a foul, but it's barely a booking.
    McTominay, Cavani and Fernandes were all easier arguments.
     
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  8. BajanSpur

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    This squad is better then this and deserves better then this.
    Mourinho has reached the point IMHO where he is making
    himself look foolish.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

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    Just once can we go 1-0 up in the 47th minute? It might see us play the second half like somebody hasn't laced our Lucozade with Mogadon
     
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  10. KingHotspur

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    Spot on
     
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  11. KingHotspur

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    Spurs can’t go ahead so soon after half time as the team talk of sit back is still ringing in their ears
     
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  12. remembercolinlee

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    Cos he can not cope with making yet another managerial screw up so he pretends it ain't happening?
     
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    You know Man Utd weren't under pressure when their fans are racially abusing opposition players on social media instead of their own

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  14. remembercolinlee

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    I'm pretty Zen about it all tbh.
    I ain't spending my hard earned to pay to watch dross football so I've paid off debts.

    Levy and JM are in deep **** as Levy is watching the value of prize players plummet so a rebuilding job won't be funded by selling off Rose, Dele, Alderweireld, Dier, Winks, Aurier, Sissoko, Lloris, Hart, Sanchez etc
    We'd be lucky to get £50m for that lot.

    Only Son, Lucas and Kane will fetch decent money...Reguilón will bring some in too.

    Is Levy really going to let JM spend what little money we have?

    The bright spot is that JM will be gone at some point and as the club is wrecked the ticket prices will have to drop as playing in front of a half empty stadium will be the beginning of the end for Levy.
     
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  15. KingHotspur

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    Mourinho needs to feel the heat in some way. This is terrible stuff and getting away with it because no fans in the stadium.
     
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  18. C. Kane

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    What confuses me is the constant knee-jerk reactions to every little thing that goes wrong. From the personnel selected in the line-up to which substitutes are used and which order they appear in, there is almost no consistency to anything Jose does. And while I fully accept that many of us (myself included) have pretty much thrown the towel in on most of our players, there is still much to be said about having a settled team with a preferred formation, especially at this stage of the season.

    In a similar way to how it looked as though the entire playbook was torn up and started from scratch after the West Ham draw, the defeat to Arsenal also seemed to precipitate scorched earth on all that had come before it, as a relatively settled side was once again hacked to pieces (Doherty, Toby and Bale all vanished from sight after runs in the team). Then the players who were brought in to replace their banished team mates were also cut off after the Zagreb game (Winks, Dier, Davies and Alli vanished from sight after that game).

    Throughout the season, players have supposedly been cur adrift only to reappear half a dozen games later. Dier playing today is the easiest case in point. The end result is a group probably on edge with paranoia, knowing that a single bad performance will lead to the gulags for 5 weeks. And the flipside is a side that simple looks unsettled more than anything, like a team of strangers.

    We've rarely had things better in terms of injuries and suspensions, yet the amount of different player combinations we've managed this season has been staggering. Even now, without EL football to worry about, we're still seeing football's answer to the hokey-cokey week in, week out. Last week Vinicius and Sanchez, this week Dier and Son, next week we'll probably see Winks and Bergwijn drafted back in.

    It is mesmerisingly stupid.
     
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  19. No Kane No Gain

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    How is anyone failing under Jose? There are 3 transfers that Jose and his agent have managed, 2 of them have been more ****, by a distance under Jose. One was Gedson who did nothing and got sent home early, the other's Doherty who's been awful.

    If we get a new manager in, as long as they're decent, I don't care if they want to keep Doherty and re-sign Gedson, I'll still give them a chance.

    The main complaint has been the defence, and conceding too many, but who plays as defensively as we do? Even towards the end of Pochettino's spell it was showing that a lot of sides, like Burnley, who had built a sit deep and counter approach were starting to press more. All the relics of the low-block era are changing, except Jose, so I don't see how the players take any of the blame.

    Completely agree on Levy but I just don't see Levy leaving with ENIC still owning Spurs. If they sell up I only see it getting worse, either we get a business that will fleece us even more, or some child-bombing dictator. I don't get the excitement for change at that level, whereas player and management changes I do understand(even if I don't agree on the players side).

    What I'm getting at though is which club is improving things significantly as a result of the chairman? West Ham and United are doing great, City are flying. Thaty've all wasted far more money than their current success is worth. Abroad the successful teams are all still run by the same people too.
     
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  20. Roo

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    there were plenty that we’re older than 16, mate. I’m currently enjoying reading their daily tweets which blame anything and everything except for Mourinho, because that would mean swallowing their own pride and wouldn’t suit their narrative. Its comedy gold at the moment. <ok>
     
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