It’s City though, I’d imagine that during the Guardiola era (and even spells before in fairness) you can more or less put any referee’s stats with them and they’d likely have around a 90% win rate. As for him being ****, I think that’s just across the board of all refs. Standard of refereeing has been abysmal for some time now. You’re gonna find yourselves benefitting and suffering from awful calls and I think by the end of the season it largely evens itself out.
Guardiola's win rate with City is 72.36%, apparently. His win rate with Tierney as a ref is over 86%. The Manc gets a lot of their big games too, so you'd expect it to be lower. He's reffed them in two domestic cup finals and they won both. I think it's probably that he's stylistically suited to them. He lets them hack the **** out of their opponents and does **** all. Then later in the match they get some back and he books everyone. It's the modern, Michael Oliver-style **** officialdom. "Managing the event", as they like to call it.
I totally agree it was so timid tonight and it’s frustrating. But maybe that’s due to the fact they better than us right now and hopefully we will close that gap in the next year or so
Not sure we were timid... played out from the back the whole game...we were just weak in the final 3rd...think we matched everywhere else
Yeah I get what you are saying. It generally was a lack of quality in the final third which isn’t surprising really when that is where we are missing our best players. The defence were overall pretty good. There was the slip by Udogie and then the Vicarious mistake but that was pretty much it. We just never really looked like making the most of the time we managed to break their press and that was the most disappointing thing.
I’d imagine that’s about right though then isn’t it? If he has an overall 73% win rate, which I’d imagine includes European football, then having around 80-90% win rates with English refs in English football would probably be about accurate, they’ve been hoovering up the majority of cups and titles since he pretty much came in. I doubt Tierney’s stats would be vastly different from other referees that have managed similar amounts of City games.
I think that we lacked quality up there and virtually ignored Werner, for some reason. Kulusevski didn't look right and struggled with his deeper role. Johnson needs a game or two out of the starting lineup. We had a lot of players available, relatively speaking, but missed the absentees. Some of those that did play definitely didn't look 100%, either.
Maybe a lack of quality rather than attitude wise but I expected more offensive from Spurs tonight. Son is a huge miss.
Yeah, you can see the difference in Son from any of our other forwards. It really does show how fortunate we were to have had Kane and Son together for the best part of a decade. If you can’t win cups the next best thing is enjoying the best possible players in my opinion (and ideally enjoying the football too!), both of these will be remembered for decades to come as two of our very best the club has had.
Son can be hot and cold but especially against the likes of Arsenal and City, he’s come up with special goals and moments. Without him the forward line is mid table quality imo.
Oh without a doubt he can be temperamental with form but then I suppose maybe at times - and I’m more than guilty of this myself - we sometimes expect them to always be brilliant that a drop in form perhaps gets over criticised. Watching most of these other forwards you just realise that there’s a huge gap in quality, to the point where it’s quite scary. Him and Kane for a number of years prevented this club from being in real trouble, I genuinely dread to think where the club would’ve been the last few years without them. I don’t even think it’s too over the top to suggest we could’ve been in relegation battles.
His Premier League win rate is around 74%. Guess who reffed this: please log in to view this image Still, I'm sure he's got some nice property...
The same ref is ****. At least he's consistent, I guess! Liverpool fans do hate him, though. So does Klopp. It's an ongoing thing.
No idea. I was at the game and it seemed like a VAR check, but there was nothing on the screens. A battery change would explain it, though. Seems like something that happens quite often. Rather amateurish, really.
Definitely something to do with the Assistant Ref on the Eastern Touchline. He put his flag on the ground, took his shirt off and then someone helped him with adjusting something.
While I can see why the foul on Vicario wasn't given, surely the City player was offside when the ball went in.
