Even if we'd have missed the Pen you'd have still been down to 10 and backs to the wall. No way did the scoreline reflect the play. We were forced to chase the game, particularly after Lampard's free kick, and although we defended poorly, these things can happen in a one off game where you have to get a result.
And it was 90% certain we would have scored the penalty. Then a forward (Lampard or Kalou presumably?) comes off for the new keeperand they are less of a threat going forward, so we might have got away with our gung ho defending at the end.
VDV was playing a major part in the game, as soon as he was pulled off for Defoe the midfield crumbled and Chelsea capitalised. What you cannot do is second guess what would have happened if the 2nd 'goal' was not awarded. You can say it changed the game, but how it changed it we will never know. What we do know is that such bad decisions do change games and ruin it for many of us. A Chelsea friend of mine said he would have liked to have beaten Spurs but not like that. It spoils the game for both sides. I've said this before but I'll say it again I was not impressed with Spurs 'giving up' with 10/15 minutes to go. Very poor and I blame Redknapp for that not the ref. as I do for taking off VDV. We lost, I'll live with that, but once again we were on the wrong end of a refs decision that was was so wrong it beggars belief. Surely we have had our allocation by now if it really is swings and roundabouts. When do we get our payback, when will the roundabout come round again? I wont hold my breath.
I've read some **** on football forums down the years, but anyone claiming that was a legitimate goal is in dire need of some professional help! Both teams, both managers and the ref himself have said it wasn't. I'd take that as a pointer. Astounding stupidity or pathetic WUMery? I'll leave that up to you. As for it not changing the game, I'd suggest that anyone claiming otherwise has a poor understanding of the sport. It forced tactical changes in the teams, which should probably be something of a hint. I wonder what Drogba would've had to say about it? [video=youtube;AMyAh-8XtR8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMyAh-8XtR8[/video]
its an idiotic comment considering the ref says he ballsed it up. just goes to show how you go into a debate...with rose tinted glasses on
The picture suggests **** all, other than you're an idiot that doesn't understand perspective. Chelsea's captain who was nearest to the thing, said it wasn't over, and the ref has seen footage admittiing it wasn't a goal and apologised....now leave it alone Piskie...leave it alone.
its fair to say hes an idiot full stop...he has his own agenda....even the ref and the surrounding players admit that it was not a goal...yet pikie thinks it 'may' have been i shall keep repeating myself until the dikhed gets the message
At last!...yes it did, you were given a goal, we scored quickly, but still needed another for ET at that point, you still had the lead, and could afford to bide your time or see the game out. Had the goal not been given you have to agree the rest of the match would not have panned out as it did, ie. the match would not have restarted from the centre spot. Your 3rd goal was effectively your 2nd, so wobbling on about maulings and riots is...well...****e! PS. Didn't know you weren't English from previous comment so apologies for that, but my point was very relevant, in that other English Chelsea fans will know exactly how that feels to have a 'scoreline changing' decision go against you. 2nd time in 4 matches against us I think it is, that Chelsea have been 'given' a goal they didn't score. On the bright side, if we didn't have bad luck, we'd have no luck! (ironicsmiley)
As soon as their third went in we were hand on hips looking defeated, the players should take the blame for that. The game was already a bit of a joke by that point, much like Norwich we decided to forego a midfield and turn it into chaos. I could understand it when we were two down but not when we'd made it 2-1, it's difficult to tell whether it was solely on 'Arry's instruction or whether the players were taking it upon themselves to stay up instead of tracking back.
you obviously havent kicked a ball in your life or played in a footall match if yu seriously think the mental effect of being robbed and finding yourself 2-0 down is the same as clawing a game back to 1-1 and then having the upper hand.
Notso don't twsit my words . Spurs have been quality this season in general and had the ability to prevent a 5-1 mauling and almost did by getting a foot back into it. You may not have scored your goal if that goal was disallowed. Please tell me you accept that point!? I am English, I just don't follow the national team.
That has nothing to do with it, I have played football and still do. I could argue it'd make me fight even more to achieve justice, not go and let in 3 more after getting back into the game! You describe it as being robbed, how come you came onto our board and congratulated us last night then?
because you won and im not going to look bitter...thats nothing to do with what i am saying. you might want to think i sound like im saying we was robbed...one day you will take off your tints and realise that you dont need to be defensive as it may well be your team that suffers just like you thought they were robbed against Barca a few years back i argued the point that no way can anybody say that a refs decision does not effect an outcome...especially when it would have become 1-1 not 2-0...and that there are mental consequences,as in yesterdays scenario...i could have this argument in 6 months to do with another match..or yesterdays United v Villa match... as it is to do with the ethics of people who back things just because it suits their agenda.....ive got no problem with the outcome of the match between our teams yesterday. that is 2 diffrent things there.
Didn't ITV show one of those 3D virtual pictures after the match showing the ball just shy of even touching the goalline?
Not exactly the first time we've been robbed by extremely dodgy officiating in an FA Cup semi since Harry became our manager, for that matter...
Of course Drogs, I said, had the goal not been given, the match would not have panned out as it did, including our goal obviously, I can't be selective can I. You may well have still won it 1-0, and a worthy winner it would have been. I didn't think I twisted your words tbh, I thought you agreed that kind of error does change the game, changing the scoreboard has to. Like I said, other decisions penalties etc that you do, or do not get, don't change the scoreline. Thats all my point is, seeing as Spurs have been on the end of enough disallowed legit goals and goals given that weren't...y'day was not anywhere near the first time...I see you haven't been able to name one instance for Chelsea, in contrast I could name you 4 Spurs mares...just in this season! ...as you can imagine, getting a bit fed up of it, honestly man its happened so many times since Pedro Mendes, you do think to yourself, 'surely it can't happen again', but no, lady luck takes a dump after a curry on us again!
