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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Brighton & Hove Albion

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  1. bigsmithy9

    bigsmithy9 Well-Known Member

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    I've been only able to see Spurs on tv so I've been unable to notice players reactions during a game.Do we have any players that go barmy when their team mates screw up or even keep yelling encouragement or are they all just going through their paces waiting to go home to mum!?
     
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  2. Alfie Conn

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    Having watched most of the game again up till the 80th min ,the main difference was we did not press as a team after they scored their 1st goal and we did not address the amount of room the had down our right side
    Their 3rd goal started with Solanke as the lone press and no back up , was it tiredness or had they given up only Ange and the team will know but it has to be sorted urgently
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

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    Absolutely ludicrous comments from Postecoglou.
    We played well for most of the first half, then started the 2nd extremely badly. That prompts him to just **** the game off? What?
    Udogie and Werner should've been gone after about 10 minutes and Bentancur and Maddison should've followed soon after.
    He also should've bollocked the rest of the defence, but the midfield just stopped working entirely.

    The worst thing about it was the supposed leaders walking about feeling sorry for themselves.
    Son's not there, so it's supposed to fall on Romero and Maddison, but they both clearly had a strop on.

    All of the post-match comments from our lot have been woeful bollocks.
    I hope that there's more honest reflection and criticism going on behind the scenes, as what they've said is appalling ****e.
     
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  4. Citizen Kane.

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    Seems to be saying he wants to win every game at a cantor and won't settle for anything less.

    Some of the stuff he comes out with is bizarre, and suggests that he (still) really doesn't understand the nature of the PL.
     
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  5. PleaseNotPoll

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    I think that he's trying to instil a winning mentality and create some leadership on the pitch, but I'm not sure that's the way to do it.
    You ****ed it up, you sort it out, basically. The manager can't always make the changes to turn a game around.
    I get where he's coming from and we do badly need more leadership out there and a better mentality to setbacks.

    Throwing away points to demonstrate what he wants from the players is consistent with his approach, but I'm not sure it'll work.
    We'd have been better off making changes, winning the game and then getting things right with the players afterwards, in my opinion.
    We've got a lot of young players. Some will have bad days and others need chances to show what they can do.
     
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  6. Left on the Shelf

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    In an odd way, if Ange really wasn't concerned in dragging the game back (which I find ridiculous), then he could have actually made a much bigger positive impression by making those subs earlier. When we went behind and entrusting Moore, Bergvall and Spence particularly.
    The damage had already been caused by the experienced players, so those young lads would not have been under any real pressure to turn it around. But had they done so then the whole dynamic would change.
     
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  7. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    EPL is stronger than SPL, I think Ange is aware of this. Players have to play for 90 minutes and not 45 minutes
     
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  8. littleDinosaurLuke

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    It was a weird game. Spurs were completely dominant in the first half and could have scored more.
    The second half was a complete reversal.
    It was obvious that Brighton would come out in the second half and go for broke. Their game is high risk at the best of times, but had to be at 0-2. I'm not sure Ange knows what to do when his team is under pressure against a good team and the game plan needs to be adapted to counter this. It wasn't an issue much at Celtic.
    Spurs look flat track bullies under him, but weak under pressure. He relies on the team having the lion's share of possession and being able to use it. There seems to be no plan when the opposition are in control.
     
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  9. Spurlock

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    I dont see anyone losing their **** on the pitch and gathering the troops much
     
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  10. Citizen Kane.

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    The lack of leadership is a huge concern. The three strongest personalities in the squad all left in quick succession (Harry, Hugo and Hojbjerg), and it has left a massive void.

    Our captain is one of the nicest, quietest players in the world and our vice captains seem to prefer stropping around moping when things aren't going our way.
     
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  11. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Tottenham have only conceded five goals this season .They have conceded the same numbers of goals as Manchester City. Arsenal has conceded six goals. Maybe Tottenham are not scoring many goals as they need to score.
     
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  12. Citizen Kane.

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    We've conceded 8.

    Which is too many.

    And if it isn't too many, the real problem is how bloody easy each of those goals was for the opposition to score. With the exception of the Arsenal goal, which came about thanks to their WWE tactics at corners, the other 7 were piss easy Sunday league level goals. None of them made you sit up and go 'wow, that was special', they were all so simple and so avoidable.

    That's where the real worry lies. It doesn't matter how many we score if we are permanently vulnerable to conceding stupid goals.
     
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  13. BinghamSpur

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    Agree but they're not alone.

    Look at the highlights of various games and you see some pretty poor defending week in, week out. It's as if the "art" of defending has been lost...
     
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  14. PowerSpurs

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    Scoring 14 goals and conceding 8 in seven matches would usually get you 13 or 14 points and be on course for top 4. We conceded a lot more goals last season
     
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  15. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Tottenham must learn how to kill games off especially when they are leading by 2:0.
     
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  16. PowerSpurs

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    I've always been dubious about whether game management is even possible. The better you are the less likely you are to lose a lead seems to explain the situation to me. It's something that should be amenable to statistical analysis though but I am not aware of any.
     
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  17. Tilly'sowner

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    Personally I can’t see how spurs can “manage” a game when under attack (like the second half at Brighton) when playing the high line.
     
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  18. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    They can win ugly....How many games has Tottenham won by 1:0 this season ?.
     
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  19. Tilly'sowner

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    I agree, I think there are times we need to play “ugly” and drop the high line in order to win some games. Ange doesn’t agree with me though.
     
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    But we weren't particularly adept at that with 2 of the most defensive coaches in the business (Jose and Conte), so the likelihood of Ange being able coach a Spurs side to defend a 1-0 lead seems unlikely.
     
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