Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa

Are Spurs not relegation candidates at the moment? 38 points from 37 games and 17th in the league.

 

Nah...







































Not this season

 

Playing youngsters for a run of games in a weakened side and then not showing them the light of day in a stronger side is a madness imo.

Not just due to the lack of consistency and constant disruptions to their development, but neglecting to give them the chance to play alongside better/more experienced players denies them the opportunity to learn and grow...thus presumably negating the reason we signed themselves youngsters in the first place.

 

Very true. Just another failure from Ange to add to the list

 

Of course we are not.

 

Form over the last 10 league matches suggests otherwise
Form: Last 10 matches
GP W D L GF GA GD Pts Opponents PPG
1 Aston Villa 10 8 0 2 19 8 +11 24 1.40
2 Newcastle Utd 10 7 1 2 22 9 +13 22 1.40
3 Liverpool 10 7 1 2 21 11 +10 22 1.33
4 Manchester City 10 6 3 1 15 6 +9 21 1.17
5 Chelsea 10 6 2 2 11 7 +4 20 1.38
6 Wolverhampton 10 6 1 3 15 10 +5 19 1.06
7 Brentford 10 5 3 2 16 11 +5 18 1.41
8 Crystal Palace 10 4 4 2 15 16 -1 16 1.47
9 Arsenal 10 3 6 1 15 10 +5 15 1.42
10 Nottm Forest 10 4 3 3 12 11 +1 15 1.21
11 Brighton 10 4 3 3 17 18 -1 15 1.38
12 Fulham 10 4 0 6 13 15 -2 12 1.41
13 Everton 10 2 5 3 10 11 -1 11 1.59
14 West Ham Utd 10 2 4 4 12 12 0 10 1.25
15 Bournemouth 10 2 4 4 11 13 -2 10 1.31
16 Manchester Utd 10 1 3 6 9 15 -6 6 1.53
17 Ipswich Town 10 1 2 7 11 23 -12 5 1.52
18 Tottenham 10 1 2 7 10 22 -12 5 1.55
19 Leicester City 10 1 2 7 6 19 -13 5 1.49
20 Southampton 10 0 3 7 6 21 -15 3 1.46

 

And Aston Villa and Newcastle will fight it out to be champions while Arsenal will be mid table. Thanks for illustrating why 10 matches is nowhere near enough to be significant

 

What about 37 and being 17th?

We’re extremely lucky the gap between the Prem and Champ is widening as the last two seasons the promoted trio have gone back down. A “normal” season and we’d be in serious, serious danger.

 

This is damning on so many levels.... Not just the points tally, but the 'goals for' tally which many have used as a justification for the teams consistently poor performances. And all that over a period when the much- lauded injury crisis had largely abated.
Damning!

 

And thank you for finally admitting that the first 10 games under Ange are totally irrelevant and his points average as manager is therefore woeful.

 

On your logic the promoted teams being relegated is now a normal season as it has happened twice running.
I've explained many times while drawing conclusions from insufficient data leads to the wrong decisions.

 

I've not admitted anything of the sort. Using his first ten matches to 'prove' anything is a mistake, as is ignoring them. Using all of the data gives the best information

 

It’s not insufficient data though, you just try passing it off as such.

17th in the table is relegation candidate form.

 

I've posted the statistics which show it is an unusual event but it really isn't enough to draw firm conclusions from.

 

Doesn’t it matter if it’s unusual. Tottenham are/ were a relegation candidate this season.

 

What do you see different about next season (if Ange stays) that means Spurs won’t be just as bad or even worse next season?