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Top Refs ?

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Hung Drawn and Quartered, Dec 25, 2020.

  1. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    Tops Refs or should I say the more Experienced Refs
    and why we don't seem to get a fair share of them from the PGMOL

    Anthony Taylor, Mike Dean, Martin Atkinson, Andre Mariner, Michael Oliver, Jonathan Moss
    are what i would class as the most 'Experienced'
    obviously we can't have Michael Oliver or Jonathan Moss
    but it still leaves 4 of them

    below is a list of the teams and how many games they have had, what I would call the more 'Experienced ref' referee their games after 13/14 games

    Liverpool 12
    Leicester 11
    Man Utd 16
    Everton 12
    Chelsea 8
    Tottenham 7
    Southampton 9
    Man City 15
    Aston Villa 8
    West Ham 8
    Wolves 11
    Newcastle 4
    Crystal Palace 10
    Leeds 12
    Arsenal 13
    Burnley 12
    Brighton 8
    Fulham 10
    West Brom 13
    Sheff Utd 10


    can you spot the difference ?
    how can that be a fair rotation of refs

    The Premier League fund the PGMOL and it could be seen as the PL's way of handing Newcastle a bum steer regarding the more experienced refs

    Var has taken away a lot of the guess work on goals and offsides I know, but it never stops the refs making bad decisions in the build up
    the quality of game is also affected by refs giving cheap freekicks near 18 yard box or booking a player
    for a less serious tackle than it may have looked

    Andre Mariner a prime example of this at the recent Fulham v Liverpool game
    denying Fulham a clear penalty even with var
    Needless to say, Andre Mariner is in charge of Newcastle's trip to Man City for the Sky, Boxing day annual thumping - be prepared for iffy decisions

    Anthony Taylor only refereed us once in the Premier League last season and that was on the last day
    1 in 38 games home and away (although he did ref the WBA Cup game- but that was not in the League)

    just an observation
     
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  3. HughFallace

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    Don't worry he won't need to overturn a penalty for us as we won't be going into their box.

    The biased decisions for the big 6 has been a thing for years, never going to change unfortunately!
     
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  4. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    not worried about us getting into the opposition half really
    it's just the disproportionate allocation of refs by the PGMOL who are bankrolled by the Premier League
     
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    Or half.
     
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    Those "top refs" are all useless (except Oliver)
     
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  7. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    I must admit that even Oliver is coming out with strange decisions lately
     
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    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Aren't we being reffed by one tonight?
     
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  9. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    yes we are, but this is our first this season
    and we resort back to Paul Tierney for the Liverpool game
    then back to Robert Jones v Leicester who just reffed us v Brentford - twice in 4 games ????
    Rob Jones has only reffed 2 premier games before and only gets 1 match per month
    so I would say he has very limited experience
     
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    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Yet we've got more penalties this season than several seasons.
    Don't really see it as issue
     
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  11. Hung Drawn and Quartered

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    the extra pens this season have come from VAR where they can't dispute it
    the crap decision making during the game is not open to var
    like the amount of cheap free kicks given against us just out side the penalty area
     
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  12. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    I still don't see the issue. Our issue isn't the ref it's the coach/manager/Shelvey
     
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  13. Hung Drawn and Quartered

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    Just a few comments on todays game Leeds v Burnley ref Robert Jones
    the same ref we had v Brentford and returns for our home game against Leicester within 2 weeks
    This is an example on how inexperienced refs get so many decisions wrong
    yet we never see these refs referee the Cartel 6 because the PL know they are ****e

    Leon Osman
    Former Everton midfielder on BBC Radio 5 Live
    The referee blew before the ball went into the goal and that's the biggest mistake he made.
    The turn and finish from Ashley Barnes was incredible - a half volley on the swivel. If the referee had waited they could have reviewed it with VAR.


    Theo HV: Goalkeeper runs out, clatters Burnley player and gets the decision. Barmy decision from the referee.

    Graham Rowley: That was an absolutely shocking decision from the referee.

    James Lockwood: Burnley really hard done by with that foul on the Leeds keeper, never a foul and the goal should have stood, goalies are way too protected.

    Lesley Keech: As a Leeds fan, I can say Burnley were robbed there. Goalie came out to the player, not the other way around, it should have been called a foul against Meslier. Goal should have stood.

    MJC1973: I'm not a Burnley fan but the ref has seriously let them down twice so far. It was not a penalty and how was that a foul on keeper? If anything it was the other way. Not seen this ref before but he has made two howlers already.

    Jon Evans: Awful from the ref disallowing that goal. If anything it was a foul on Mee with a knee in his back. I thought the refs were meant to wait before blowing up in that situation? Meant VAR couldn't intervene. Ref standards have plummeted since VAR was introduced.
     
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