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Rumsfield said:
I have watched them Ive watched all his passes and blocks. Ive watched him running around with a bloody bandage with motm type performances.

He's a full Swiss international... Lacelles is **** I don't know what you're talking about at this point mate

Like i say it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but nothing will ever convince me that Jamal lacelles is better than schar, has played better than him or that he's good enough to get in the Swiss national team.

You laugh but Lascelles was injured when Bruces nufc won about 11 games last season.. Lascelles is crap.

It only takes one bad ingredient to ruin a recipe.
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Ok mate, but at the moment, I'd consider them both liabilities, and I picked lascelles but Schar was reportedly injured/knock whatever and because Schar has been making so many mistakes recently.

Either way I'm not too bothered, because neither of them will be 1st choice next season, and this season we don't have much to play for anyway.

It will probably make little difference over the last 2 games.
 
Vegan Beast | Tash said:
Ok mate, but at the moment, I'd consider them both liabilities, and I picked lascelles but Schar was reportedly injured/knock whatever and because Schar has been making so many mistakes recently.

Either way I'm not too bothered, because neither of them will be 1st choice next season, and this season we don't have much to play for anyway.

It will probably make little difference over the last 2 games.
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You keep saying liability but we only lost twice. What mistakes? You mean not making all his very challenging passes from cb? Did you see dumbo the other day? Bumbling around and being dragged out of position.

I'd pick schar ahead of burn on recent form
He cost us the point at Chelsea and hasn't been performing well at all. When did schar do anything that cost is a result? In genuinely interested to see if you can make one because I can't recall a single one.. Just the odd miss placed pass
 
Vegan Beast | Tash said:
Ok, I'm out. See ya.
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Without answering the question?

I've given you a match losing mistake from burn and he has another the week after Can you give me one for schar?. No you can't can you.

Remember it's you judging players on what you describe as mistakes
 
Rumsfield said:
Without answering the question?

I've given you a match losing mistake from burn and he has another the week after Can you give me one for schar?. No you can't can you.

Remember it's you judging players on what you describe as mistakes
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It's very easy to point out that Burn mistake because it led to a goal, but it's incredibly harsh considering that the goal was so well executed, and would not have been pulled off most of the time, and in the same game we were denied a clear penalty, so obviously Burn will be the easy target for blame for that loss, which is harsh.

It's a lot easier for you to prove your point when Burn's mistake was associated with a key moment in a big game. You have to put in less effort to prove your point.

I saw Schar's mistakes, I was at the games, and I've also had others I've talked to who went to the games share the same thought I had. Just because some of schars errors have not led to goals, doesn't mean they weren't catastrophic, he was just lucky.

I think Schar has been error prone recently, but I'm not going to put in the effort to prove it to you now, I saw them, that's proof enough for me, if you didn't then that's on you. It's a lot more difficult for me to prove links, references, point out moments that are not connected to key "caught on camera" moments that would be in match highlights, and you probably know this. In short I'd have to put in a lot more effort to prove my point than you would yours in this case, and it's not worth my time to prove this point to you.

I'm ok disagreeing with you and letting it be that. Burn has been by far our best CB since he came in, his all round play has been outstanding, with few errors.

I'll agree to disagree with you.
 
Vegan Beast | Tash said:
It's very easy to point out that Burn mistake because it led to a goal, but it's incredibly harsh considering that the goal was so well executed, and would not have been pulled off most of the time, and in the same game we were denied a clear penalty, so obviously Burn will be the easy target for blame for that loss, which is harsh.

It's a lot easier for you to prove your point when Burn's mistake was associated with a key moment in a big game. You have to put in less effort to prove your point.

I saw Schar's mistakes, I was at the games, and I've also had others I've talked to who went to the games share the same thought I had. Just because some of schars errors have not led to goals, doesn't mean they weren't catastrophic, he was just lucky.

I think Schar has been error prone recently, but I'm not going to put in the effort to prove it to you now, I saw them, that's proof enough for me, if you didn't then that's on you. It's a lot more difficult for me to prove links, references, point out moments that are not connected to key "caught on camera" moments that would be in match highlights, and you probably know this. In short I'd have to put in a lot more effort to prove my point than you would yours in this case, and it's not worth my time to prove this point to you.

I'm ok disagreeing with you and letting it be that. Burn has been by far our best CB since he came in, his all round play has been outstanding, with few errors.

I'll agree to disagree with you.
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In other words no <laugh>

The burn thing is debatable

Let's just get back to point A - you're picking Lascelles ahead of schar. Bruce did that <laugh><cracker>
 
Rumsfield said:
Without answering the question?

I've given you a match losing mistake from burn and he has another the week after Can you give me one for schar?. No you can't can you.

Remember it's you judging players on what you describe as mistakes
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Schar mistake against Spurs was one of the worst I have seen all season. Awful cross field ball that went straight to them and they scored from it.
But I agree with you. I would always pick Schar ahead of Lascelles. Latter is incapable of playing out from the back. Too slow in pass selection and then invariably hoofs long. We are trying to play from the back so I would always pick Schar.
 
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Schar mistake against Spurs was one of the worst I have seen all season. Awful cross field ball that went straight to them and they scored from it.
But I agree with you. I would always pick Schar ahead of Lascelles. Latter is incapable of playing out from the back. Too slow in pass selection and then invariably hoofs long. We are trying to play from the back so I would always ick Schar.
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Yes ultimately its about who's utterly useless and it's lacelles.. He simply cannot do the basics required at this level.

I'd rather play Dummet than lacelles.

It's all about opinions in most cases, but I'm really shocked to hear people that think lacelles is a better player than schar.
 
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Rumsfield said:
In other words no <laugh>

The burn thing is debatable

Let's just get back to point A - you're picking Lascelles ahead of schar. Bruce did that <laugh><cracker>
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In other words in order to answer your question and prove my point, I'd have to put a lot more effort into it that i'm willing to put in, so stop being a c*nt and just agree to disagree like I said you tool.

And I've given my reasoning for Lascelles over schar for this game, and it was perfectly reasonable.
 
Vegan Beast | Tash said:
In other words in order to answer your question I'd have to put a lot more effort into it that i'm willing to put in, so stop being a **** and just agree to disagree like I said.

And I've given my reasoning for Lascelles over schar for this game, and it was perfectly reasonable.
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Excuse me but I haven't said anything even remotely unpleasant to you and was 1st to say you're entitled to your opinion.

You quite clearly sighted errors schar had made even saying he's been a liability, so I asked for one example and you couldn't name one, so you got pissed off.

Calm down mate you think Lascelles is better than schar it's ok


No hard feelings
 
Rumsfield said:
Excuse me but I haven't said anything even remotely unpleasant to you and was 1st to say you're entitled to your opinion.

You quite clearly sighted errors schar had made even saying he's been a liability, so I asked for one example and you couldn't name one, so you got pissed off.

Calm down mate you think Lascelles is better than schar it's ok


No hard feelings
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I never said I thought Lascelles was better than Schar... I'm getting frustrated because you're being unreasonable, and based on what you've just said you're obviously not reading what i'm saying.

Don't act like you asking me to "name one" is a simple request, and walk away thinking you've won despite the evidence/examples you gave to prove your point about burn are a lot easier to reference because they were highlights of a game, where as the mistakes I've seen Schar make were not, so more difficult to reference.

Unless a mistake was a big moment in a match that is available on highlights, then I cannot easily reference it.

If it was just one or two bad mistake, I wouldn't be on here making this point. What do you think I have some blind hatred against schar for absolutely no reason?

I 100% want Schar to stay next season and want Lascelles to go, but regardless of this, If a playing is a liability on current form, he should be dropped, and Schar has been a liability.

I'll not have hard feelings when you start listening to the points I am making, but now I think you're deliberately trying to be a **** so I'll just leave it there.

I'm not going to read anymore of your posts about this subject.
 
Vegan Beast | Tash said:
I never said I thought Lascelles was better than Schar... I'm getting frustrated because you're being unreasonable, and based on what you've just said you're obviously not reading what i'm saying.

Don't act like you asking me to "name one" is a simple request, and walk away thinking you've won despite the evidence/examples you gave to prove your point about burn are a lot easier to reference because they were highlights of a game, where as the mistakes I've seen Schar make were not, so more difficult to reference.

Unless a mistake was a big moment in a match that is available on highlights, then I cannot easily reference it.

If it was just one or two bad mistake, I wouldn't be on here making this point. What do you think I have some blind hatred against schar for absolutely no reason?

I 100% want Schar to stay next season and want Lascelles to go, but regardless of this, If a playing is a liability on current form, he should be dropped, and Schar has been a liability.

I'll not have hard feelings when you start listening to the points I am making, but now I think you're deliberately trying to be a **** so I'll just leave it there.

I'm not going to read anymore of your posts about this subject.
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If you're not prepared to back up your claims with anything demonstrable then that's not my problem.

It becomes my problem when you start calling me a **** simply because I've asked you answer a question.

Why can't you just give me the answer instead of trying to tap dance around it.

Ps I am a ****, but not on this occasion.
 
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