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The manager persisting with at left back for months when he was being rinsed game after game was key I feel.
 
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Injuries helped Miley as well. But if we didn’t have the original injuries we wouldn’t have noticed

was found out towards the end of last season. The thing is I'm seeing people blaming luck, injuries and ignoring the managers stubborn resistance to fixing the issue until he had no other option than to play Hall.

That imo is very telling...we all saw it week after week month after month.. he did nothing.. he went full Southgate.

Anyway it is what it is.. we move on and this summer and next season are vital for and the club.
 
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Burn was found out towards the end of last season. The thing is I'm seeing people blaming luck, injuries and ignoring the managers stubborn resistance to fixing the Burn issue until he had no other option than to play Hall.

That imo is very telling...we all saw it week and week month after month.. he did nothing.

Anyway it is what it is.. we move on and this summer and next season are vital for Howe and the club.
Yes because playing Hall would’ve solved all issues. Silly me. Howe Out!
 
No. Think. That wouldn’t have happened at the start of the season. wouldn’t have replaced Botman and Tino, rightly, wouldn’t have replaced Trippier

Exactly Hall should on evidence have been playing all season but we were doing ok..the fact is we all saw being rinsed and targeted and he did nothing despite having the option to change it.

It's the months where is went wrong in which the manager didn't change it until it was forced that cost us most dearly.

Luck is hocus pocus to me mate.... howe isn't a god he's made mistakes... overall he's doing well.
 
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Exactly Hall should on evidence have been playing all season but we were doing ok..the fact is we all saw Burn being rinsed and targeted and he did nothing despite having the option to change it.

It's the months where is went wrong in which the manager didn't change it until it was forced that cost us most dearly.

Luck is hocus pocus to me mate.... howe isn't a god he's made mistakes... overall he's doing well.
Burn was left back when we finished 4th. What changed without us noticing for Hall to replace him? For Tino to replace Trippier?
 
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Burn was left back when we finished 4th. What changed without us noticing for Hall to replace him? For Tino to replace Trippier?

The position is irrelevant... the fact is Lewis Hall is a far superior football player and there was a period of around two months where the manager persisted with and even picked Dummet to come on ahead of Hall.

Hall was only finally introduced when everything else fell apart meaning had to move to cb and Hall was brilliant and ended winning player of the month.

If Trippier Botman Lascelles Livramento weren't all injured and dummett hadn't cost us the match at Chelsea Hall wouldn't have played at all and would still be at left back....it took all that to get this manager to do something about it.
 
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The position is irrelevant... the fact is Lewis Hall is a far superior football player and there was a period of around two months where the manager persisted with Burn and even picked Dummet to come on ahead of Hall.

Hall was only finally introduced when everything else fell apart meaning Burn had to move to cb and Hall was brilliant and ended winning player of the month.

If Trippier Botman Lascelles Livramento weren't all injured and dummett hadn't cost us the match at Chelsea Hall wouldn't have played at all and Burn would still be at left back....it took all that to get this manager to do something about it.

Hall only won player of the month for May. and the season finished a weeks ago <laugh><laugh><laugh>
 
Hall only won player of the month for May. and the season finished a weeks ago <laugh><laugh><laugh>

The results since he was brought in were excellent and he played very well. I dont think anyone could deny the huge improvement on what was happening with for months. Those months have cost us imo.

and he wasn't going to either.. that's his right he's manager but what happened after moved to cb and Hall came in was actually dramatic.
 
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We ****housed results last season.

This season we didn't. We changed our tactics. Injuries played a large part of that. Hall will be our LB next season. RB - it won't be Trippier.
 
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We ****housed results last season.

This season we didn't. We changed our tactics. Injuries played a large part of that. Hall will be our LB next season. RB - it won't be Trippier.

I don't think Hall will be.. I think Howe doesn't fancy him and he'll drop him the minute Kelly comes in... this happens sometimes.. a manager just doesn't like a player.

Ultimately we'll have two good left backs so Howe can use them accordingly though.

Hall is still young he does make on or two errors but overall he's been outstanding since injuries gave him his chance.
 
There's a few instances of that from Bobby Robson to Steve Bruce and that won't stop. It's not nice tbh but everyone's done it.
 
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The position is irrelevant... the fact is Lewis Hall is a far superior football player and there was a period of around two months where the manager persisted with Burn and even picked Dummet to come on ahead of Hall.

Hall was only finally introduced when everything else fell apart meaning Burn had to move to cb and Hall was brilliant and ended winning player of the month.

If Trippier Botman Lascelles Livramento weren't all injured and dummett hadn't cost us the match at Chelsea Hall wouldn't have played at all and Burn would still be at left back....it took all that to get this manager to do something about it.
So what you’re saying is Howe timed it perfectly and started playing Hall exactly when Hall was ready to come in and play to an acceptable standard rather than playing him too soon and watching him be destroyed as a player. Must obviously be your point as you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever that despite how poorly Burn was playing that Hall would have played to an acceptable standard if he had come in.

Have to say I concur.

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