Todays' games 2017/18

It must just be me?
But is the BBC’s commentary and punditry of the Winter Games about as ****e as it gets?
There is an undertone of drama in the vocabulary that feels like a sickening residue of one of the dreadful series they often put on the BBC

It’s a scramble to own almost anything

It’s not one thing but maybe the dismal tide of times.

 

Pretty much as i would have said it my self. I hate Ronaldo but i have to say, that he is fantastic footballer.

 

Ok, question time (and it's not a loaded one, just your opinion): who else would be in your top 5...personally, it would be Best, Pele and Cryuff, but very difficult to leave out Beckenbauer, Maradonna, Maldini, Zico and a whole host of others

 

Bowles, Marsh, Stainrod, Wegerle and Ronaldo.

 

What, no Washington?

 

Pele, Maradona, Messi, Cryuff and Ronaldo.

 

Was Pele all that?

 

I think he was, different era I'll grant you, wouldn't make it in today's game but quite brilliant for a number of years and worthy of the list

 

Why wouldn’t he make it in today’s game if he had the same level of access to fitness training and sports science etc as current players do? He might even do better as players of his type are better protected by referees nowadays. Some players, like Stan, Frank Worthington and their ilk, probably would not make it, would never get through youth level, because of attitude and lack of work ethic. I don’t think that was the case with Pele.

The greatest players change the game beyond their outstanding performances on the pitch, by redefine tactics, style, expectations etc.
Cruyff - lynchpin of total football, created modern Barca
Beckenbauer - invented the sweeper position
Puskas - centre of the Hungarian team which changed football, and Real Madrid
Di Stefano - showed what a complete player was - scoring, passing, dribbling, tackling
Pele - inspired generations and added athleticism to skills

Bit academic and my knowledge of most of these comes from telly and YouTube. The best players I have seen live are Zidane, Maldini, Van Basten, Scholes and by a country mile Maradona. Pirlo should be in there too, and Bobby Moore. Ronaldo best player currently by a long way, Messi genius but he has a team built to showcase him, Ronaldo sometimes has to do it all by himself, like Maradona nearly always did.

But the players I love are the flawed ones with arrogance, attitude and the will to entertain - Stan, Cantona, Adel, Best, Cruyff again

 

Because he is 77

 

he would still get in our first team

 

I think you have to do it by position. Very hard to compare Bobby Moore, who was one of the greatest ever defenders imo with Messi or Cruyff.

My top 5 attacking players would be:
Pele
Messi
Ronaldo
Maradonna (cheating git!!)
Cruyff

I've yet to see a better midfield player than Zidane. Etc etc.

 

Chelsea taking Hull to the cleaners in the FA Cup, 4 - 0 at half

 

Thank you for the information
I am watching Girona and may go and watch a few games in the future look a good side
Only a hour or so from house

 

Lothar Matthäus, my generations best player.

 

What a finisher he was! His ability to use the tip of his boot was an amazing skillset to watch.

 

Yeni strikes again.

 

****s sake - he's only been gone a few weeks and he's a scoring sensation - either the French league is really ****e, or we just have the inverse Midas effect on players - even Caulker scored on his debut for Dundee during the week

 

Just like Einstein's theory of relativity there is the QPR theory of incompatibility, they just don't fit us...