Tino Injury

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SaintInKuwait

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Out to 2023. Torn ACL, as per Athletic. Sickener. Just saw this had been put on Saints Stuff so feel free to delete but ****ing hell. What a kick in the teeth end to the season it’s been.
 
Wasn't this the same injury J-Rod got? He was never the same after that.

Tino has played over 30 games this season; his debut season. His performance levels unquestionably deteriorated in recent months. Ralph even criticised the England U21 manager for playing him twice in a week. I just feel, the warning signs were sort of there, and that Tino should have been limited to only about half the playing time that he had this season, particularly as we had two very competent full-backs anyway. Really gutting this one.
 
Wasn't this the same injury J-Rod got? He was never the same after that.

Tino has played over 30 games this season; his debut season. His performance levels unquestionably deteriorated in recent months. Ralph even criticised the England U21 manager for playing him twice in a week. I just feel, the warning signs were sort of there, and that Tino should have been limited to only about half the playing time that he had this season, particularly as we had two very competent full-backs anyway. Really gutting this one.
There are no warning signs with ACL injuries - they just happen. It had nothing to do with his playing time this season. Besides, Ralph had been rotating in the weeks leading up to the Brighton match - KWP and Perraud had played more than Tino lately. It's just extremely unfortunate - like most ACL injuries are.
 
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There are no warning signs with ACL injuries - they just happen. It had nothing to do with his playing time this season. Besides, Ralph had been rotating in the weeks leading up to the Brighton match - KWP and Perraud had played more than Tino lately. It's just extremely unfortunate - like most ACL injuries are.

That's debatable. Quite a lot of studies out there that suggest ACL injuries can be the result of gradual wear and tear over time.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190723110518.htm
 
That's debatable. Quite a lot of studies out there that suggest ACL injuries can be the result of gradual wear and tear over time.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190723110518.htm
General tiredness as well. I know it’s been stated, if physio team say fit, then he’s fit & manager can pick but to me there’s a bit more to it than just that. Especially when we had a “capable replacement”. Anyway, it’s done now; big big shame & I just wish Tino the very best for a 100% recovery.
 
Gutted this has happened to him after he has flourished in his first season for us. On the plus side. Excited by the prospect of Perraud on the left and KWP back in his natural position for the remaining games. Perraud has been hit and miss but hard to judge when he has not been given a consistent run of games.
 
In dogs CCL injuries present as a repeat cycle of sprains that progress to rupture. In humans, as I understand, they are primarily traumatic usually hyper extension or internal rotation. There is a theory that slower myotactic reflex arcs predispose to cruciate injury (the natural reflex to any ligament or tendon being stretched is counteractive muscle contraction). It’s been demonstrated that female athletes have a slower myotactic reflex and this has been shown in Labradors with unilateral cruciate injury).
It’s feasible that muscle fatigue could play a part, but in my opinion heavy exercise is not likely to slow down the protective myotactic reflex in a young healthy adult.
I’m not sure if you could apply this to collateral injury, but from what’s being said this looks like a primary CCL injury.
 
That's debatable. Quite a lot of studies out there that suggest ACL injuries can be the result of gradual wear and tear over time.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190723110518.htm
In vitro study using cadavers. I haven’t looked at the original paper but it is incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to replace the biomechanics of the knee in a lab model. Also being in vitro these ligaments lack blood supply and synovial fluid, both of which are quite important when looking at chronic joint disease.