Time to wield the axe?

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iggypop

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Drop Fabio - he can't defend. Wiith Declan John that makes two short skillful full backs who can't defend - that's two too many. Get KTC back in if he's fit.
DON'T play Medel and Whitts in the same side.
Play Jones AND Campbell together.
It's not all over yet but it could be by the end of the month - got to make changes.
Norwegians.....? Not good enough after all? Makes you wonder, now Ole's had a look at the standard of them compared to the rest of the squad.
 
Don't put ktc back in he looked worse than fabio against norwich put mcnugget in he can defend and did successfully against routledge (spelling) against the jacks. I also like john but he still needs to grow and develop in to a prem standard footballer therefore taylor should replace him. Other than that and the exclusion of kim we should be fine
 
NOOOOOO, don't bring back Taylor. He was getting torn to pieces before he was injured John makes some mistakes but he's a least got a chance of being a PL left back. Taylor never ever will be.
 
Whittingham & Kimbo for the drop 100% - both were appauling last night! I don't understand why Mutch and or Noone weren't on from kick off! Silly, silly tactical mistakes.. Whittingam - powerful shot (when he tries), too lightweight, no pace, NOW needs to be dropped - same as Kimbo. Ben Turner, I'm sorry but he's not Premiership quality. Changes need to be made.. Sooner rather than later.
 
Can't understand why Whittingham and Kim were choosen to play instead of Mutch and Noone? The only thing this suggests to me is the Nob from Norway just haven't got a bloody clue!
 
itsnotme! said:
Can't understand why Whittingham and Kim were choosen to play instead of Mutch and Noone? The only thing this suggests to me is the Nob from Norway just haven't got a bloody clue!
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Whittingham needs to be a bench warmer after yesterday, same as Kim
 
There's not a lot of point blaming certain individual players for yesterday's debacle. Generally, we have sacrificed the team spirit and work ethic that got us out of the Championship for entertaining attacking football, which we are out of our depth at. Where are all the goals from this new attack minded approach? The current squad are weak physically and mentally.
 
I was very happy not to see Noone start.I think Fabio needs a bit of time to understand his new role at Cardiff , which will be a bit more defensive , I think he'll come good. Zaha looks like a pretty rough diamond , but a diamond that will shine more as he gets games under his belt.Thought Kim had a fair game . Marshal had no chance on any of the goals. How bout that rocket Bellemy smashed off the crossbar, what a ****in shot that was yikes . Wouln't be to crazily concerned over this game .
 
Don't know why you think that Bob - that was no attack minded approach yesterday. It was designed for containment with Whitts, Medel and Kim trying to stifle their midfield. Bellamy helped out like a man possessed, and even Zaha was back there a lot of the time.

Ole just got the whole team selection wrong. If he'd started Noone and Mutch and the result had been the same, I would have agreed with you.

Bellamy's performance was the bright point though - just behind the lone striker is his position from now on as often as he can play. He could have turned that game with a bit of luck.
 
You have to be a ultimate optimist to predict anything but relegation. 9 games for 4 points and the win was a fluke.

Goal difference is nasty, confidence is shot and Ole is not a PL manager. TP was the man we needed to get through a couple of seasons.

Fingers crossed something miraculous happens, but I think we will have to see how Mr. Tan will deal with relegation.
 
TempleofBlue said:
You have to be a ultimate optimist to predict anything but relegation. 9 games for 4 points and the win was a fluke.

Fingers crossed something miraculous happens, but I think we will have to see how Mr. Tan will deal with relegation.
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Strangely, I can't get too depressed at the thought of relegation. After all the sniping and controversy, and the recent apathy of many 'fans', perhaps we are going back where we deserve to be. We haven't really tried to enjoy the ride in the Premiership, partly (but not wholly) due to the negative approach and style we adopted to start with.
It would be interesting to see how Tan would react to relegation - which is looking more likely.
I'd love to see the fans pull together and blow us back up the league - but feel too many are enjoying the state we are in as it makes it easier to have a general moan and audience about red shirts.
 
iggypop said:
Strangely, I can't get too depressed at the thought of relegation. After all the sniping and controversy, and the recent apathy of many 'fans', perhaps we are going back where we deserve to be. We haven't really tried to enjoy the ride in the Premiership, partly (but not wholly) due to the negative approach and style we adopted to start with.
It would be interesting to see how Tan would react to relegation - which is looking more likely.
I'd love to see the fans pull together and blow us back up the league - but feel too many are enjoying the state we are in as it makes it easier to have a general moan and audience about red shirts.
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It may not be a bad thing. I don't think we got it right at all this time. Perhaps going down, great parachute payments, offload those who didn't cut it, and keep a good strong nucleus to go back up and do it better the next time. May not be that bad a result. If Mr. Tan is willing to be patient another season or two, the rewards may come.
 
People seem to be overlooking the fact that, when we go down many of the best players will leave. Premiership survival clubs will have seen our best players and will cherry pick them at will. Anyone who believes we will retain the best players going down is way off the mark. Tan will sell.
 
snlk/poksnbn said:
People seem to be overlooking the fact that, when we go down many of the best players will leave. Premiership survival clubs will have seen our best players and will cherry pick them at will. Anyone who believes we will retain the best players going down is way off the mark. Tan will sell.
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Who'll they be? Mutch, Medel, Caulker and maybe Noone. Marshall knew we've got a good chance of going down when he signed. I don't think they'd be huge demand for many/any others. Mutch is the only one I'm certain will have offers. It's seriously debatable if anyone would be willing to pay the money for Medel.

The reason we're probably going down is we've got a side full of championship players, I think we'll retain the vast majority of the squad.
 
Stevoldinho said:
Who'll they be? Mutch, Medel, Caulker and maybe Noone. Marshall knew we've got a good chance of going down when he signed. I don't think they'd be huge demand for many/any others. Mutch is the only one I'm certain will have offers. It's seriously debatable if anyone would be willing to pay the money for Medel.

The reason we're probably going down is we've got a side full of championship players, I think we'll retain the vast majority of the squad.
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I would be happy to have Mutch mate always liked what i have seen when he has played. Was happy to see him on the bench on Saturday.

One question though, remeber asking you guys of your team from last year who you saw as PL quality and bar non all said Whittingham would be superb in the PL. What has changed as it appears none of you want him to start now.
 
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