We are in the international equivalent of the blue square league and to make matters worse our game is run by a sect committed to the self preservation of their own bank accounts. On top again, we ave a bunch of passionless players who show no desire play and have no respect for the badge. This bunch of players can play, they showed they could when their mate speed was manager. Yet THEY chose not to play under Coleman. If it were possible I'd fine the players under the Trade Descriptions Act for pretending to play football. We cant do this of course but the other problem is, Coleman out, who in ?? Doubt there's many who'd actually want the job.
So are you saying Macedonia have a better team or squad than wales, when our starting line up contains 8 PL players 2 championship and 1 SPL. Come on we have better players than our results. Time to get a manager who can motivate and has a little bit of an idea on how to run a football team. Once again faw showed their incompitence and no doubt when they renew his contract they will show it again. Time for the bufoon to go.
Speed and his team had the squad performing to a different level. Whether you consider it their philosophy and methods; or, their ability to connect with the players; or other factors - the players came to participate and the squad delivered. Why should a top flight player put his personal career at risk when (a) there is nothing to play for; (b) the people in charge don't seem to have it together. In my brief, close encounter with Coleman at the Mexico v Wales game last year I found him to be totally void of any personality whatsoever. In contrast Bellamy was open, approachable and friendly. Take that for what it is, but if I turn out every day and train with Laudrup (for example), Coleman is going to be quite underwhelming. He was not exactly setting the world on fire with tactical ingenuity while at Coventry. Should he go .... we need somebody who really understands the international game, can harness the foundation that the Swans players bring to the squad, find the right fit with Ramsay, Allen, and young Williams, and play Bale in a position where he can do most damage and support the heck out of him. Madrid will probably find a unique way to use Bale in their system that will get the best out of him - this should be emulated to the degree possible at the international level and we have players (Ramsey, Allen, Williams) in midfield and attacking backs (Davies and Taylor) that could support that approach whatever it is. But first, we need a manager / coach that gets it himself. Yes, he should go. And a non-domestic manager appointed. The sooner the better or we can kiss the next Euro competition good-bye as well. The players will respond to the right individual and put country ahead of club in terms of risk and commitment.
speed won a couple of games so dont get carried away with what he achieved, He had some of our best players in his very short time as manager and others have done better in their time.....I dont care if we had the best manager in the world we would still be crap with the set up and idiots who run wales. Coleman might not be the fans choice but he can only do with what he has got and some would never get a cap in a million years in other countries, but its all he has to chose from because the powers at the top are not doing their job in making sure our top players are released, If they did we would have a half decent team.....coleman or anyone else is not the problem its the inadequate people who take their money and dont earn it....I hope less will go to watch wales in the future and we get stuffed and the idiots at the top resign and we start from scratch ...they are an embarrassment to wales allowing our managers to do an impossible job while our best players are kept by their clubs......england wont tolerate it so why should we....
+ Tell that to the Greek team who won the European Championship. Or the Danish side who did the same. Or the Chelsea side who won the CL. Christ, tell that to the Swans teams who have taken on and beaten "better" sides over the last number of years. A well coached team of inferior players is capable of punching above its weight. A poorly coached team of inferior players never will. Coleman is an idiot and needs to lose his job.
I suppose you could add the Republic of Ireland to those teams which have over-performed. Jack Charlton, and latterly Mick McCarthy, got a bunch of honest, hard-working but journeymen footballers to achieve results we could only dream of. Is it something in the Welsh psyche that prevents our footballers performing? Mark Hughes had a pretty decent squad including a younger, fitter Craig Bellamy; John Hartson; Simon Davies; Ryan Giggs; Gary Speed; Robbie Savage; Danny Gabiddon and keeper Paul Jones with Earnshaw as sub. Many of these players were in or around their prime but, really, the only result of note they achieved was against Italy. For the most part they were the usual Welsh catastrophe when it came to qualifying for competitions and Hughes has dined out as a manger for the best part of a decade on that game against Italy. I reckon that Coleman would cream himself if he had such a calibre of players to choose from now. Yes, he should do better with what he's got and perhaps he should go, but just who do we think we are going to bring in? No one of any serious credibility would want to come anywhere near this bunch of apologies for international footballers, for fear of permanently destroying their own reputation. For me, the rot starts at the top and inexorably works its way down to the grass roots of our football. We need to clear out the old farts at the FAW, en masse, and start again with younger, brighter, more energetic people who want to take Welsh football on, rather than regard it as a medium for free junkets, holidays and perks. Trouble is, the trough swillers have super-glued themselves to their privileged positions and I doubt anything will be done in my lifetime to change that.
The problem is that Wales has produced comparatively few decent quality managers and coaches. Certainly compared to the likes of Scotland. The Wales teams of the era of Rush, Saunders, Southall and Hughes were lumbered with nonentities like Yorath & England. During the 90's it was Smith and the imported Gould. Lately it's been Hughes, Speed (and Verheijden's influence on proceedings there seems huge, especially compared to how he did at SU) and now Coleman. The problem can be fixed with a bit of foresight and creativity. Identify intelligent young Welsh footballers. Intelligence is far more important than ability as a player. Ability to learn. Ability to pick up foreign languages would be handy too. Offer them the chance to join a fast track coaching education system. Put them through the Pro licences. Send them out to clubs around the World to watch and learn from the best out there. Offer them the chance to do what Brendan Rodgers did for himself. Not all will succeed, but eventually we will have a nucleus of well trained, well educated, intelligent coaches to sprinkle throughout the systems. Start a conveyor belt of coaching and managerial talent.
Spot on ivor and just as i'm of the opinion....forget about sacking coleman or any other manager and concentrate on getting rid of the nutters who actually run the game in wales.....get rid and start from scratch from top to bottom and get wales back as a team in with a chance of competing again...some of the best players are welsh but we cant use them because clubs get away with feeble excuses to which the WFA accept without doing what england does and check.....the manager and players of which some are not international standard but do their best is not the problem..its the people at the top, Get that sorted and we will not be world beaters but we wont be the laughing stock of international football either...
You say there is a lack of coaches yet the Welsh FA is considered the favoured route to get your badges as there is less bureaucracy here. Hence many new English/foreign coaches come here to train. The Welsh FA train them for a few hundred quid, they piss off to coach in their own countries. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/23/welsh-fa-uefa-licence-sol-campbell Just incase anyone fancies it, apply here ......http://www.welshfootballtrust.org.u...ursesinformationanddates/fawuefablicence.aspx
Did you know that Dill failed the Welsh FA coaching course? He couldn't make a square out of four cones.
BIG difference between having coaching badges and being any good it it though. Any berk can get a UEFA badge if they can afford to pay for one. I'm talking about a complete education system. Not just the theory of it, but the total package.
The trough swillers first line of defence is the scape goat manager so at the trough they will stay until something dramatic happens like very low crowds over a number of games or worst ?
yes 7,500 at cardiff must have felt like being in a morgue but I want to see a lot less at the next game and we get beat 10-0 or something silly like that until they get rid of the numpties running the FAW...
If that is the case then it only means Shankley was wrong. And a few people here got it wrong about Hughes' time, Wales got to the Play-Off and lost just 1-0 to Russia and played one match with 10 men. We finished 2nd in the group and did well in the competitive matches. You don't finish 2nd by losing games. Coleman has better players this time around and yet he still cannot get the team performing, that is telling of how the manager is at fault. Anyway, Bryan Flynn is the way forward. He knows about the main players and has the best knowledge of the younger players, he turned our U21s into a decent side and he'll know which ones to play with established seniors and more importantly how to play them. He compliments their strengths and understands the game, and given the seniors know about what he did for U21s they know he be can do a good job and thus respect him.
For me I can't be bothered with watching Wales anymore, were total 5hite. I didn't even know the score until I read this mornings paper. I feel now the time to retire most for the team, have a small core of good players, Bale, Davies etc, then bring in the up and coming youngsters. It might set us back 5/6 years but it's no worse than what we are now. But after gaining valuable experience the etc we should be a much better side. I believe it's sometime better to go backwards to go forwards. I do think England need to do the very same thing as well.
foreign players in the premiership are england's downfall and have been for quite a number of years. It affects the rest of the home nations also but not to the same degree as it does england......too many foreign players allowed into the premiership that their countries are now reaping the benefit to the demise of the home nations
