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Time to replace Hamilton at McLaren?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Forza Bianchi, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    No doubt... the tyres don't exactly play to Hamilton's strengths and possibly even contribute to his frustration. But he seemed to handle that side of things in Abu Dhabi...Granted, that could have been very different had he had to chase down Vettel.

    If I were a team principle, there would be no chance of me dropping Hamilton at this point. I might be a little concerned but nowhere near showing him the door.
     
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  2. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    As Pirelli are being more conservative so that may be to his benefit in 2012. But, in all honesty it was very rare that his ****ing 'tyre management' ****e was that much of an issue. Many times Button pitted before he did in races.
     
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  3. Aloonatron

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    Replace Hamilton because of this season's performance? Poppycock.

    Replace Hamilton or Button because the last time that they won a WDC was when they had a clear team No1 and No2 driver? Yes.

    I think McLaren will continue to struggle to challenge Red Bull and Ferrari (who I think are looking good for next year, as they never seemed to get the Blown Diffuser thing this year and I would wager were a large factor in it being dropped from next year on) as these teams are working around 1 driver and tailoring their cars to their needs, at the expense of their team-mates.
     
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  4. Masanari

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    It is always much easier for the driver in the lead to manage their tyres though, just look at Vettel all year and even today Webber had no problems with his tyres and could wait and cover people off when all the way through the year he has had problems looking after his tyres.
     
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  5. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    They aren't - the current soft tyre will become the medium next year.
    He isn't good at managing his tyres. Have you noticed that he sucks in stint 1 of every race? - a lot of that is down to him trashing his tyres in his qualifying lap. It's hurt him at a few races this year- Japan, Malaysia and Turkey immediately come to mind.
     
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  6. allsaintchris.

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    His Abu Dhabi victory is also an example that he can do it.
     
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  7. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Degradation in Abu Dhabi was minimal and it isn't hard to manage the tyres when you're leading the race. Vettel manages his tyres perfectly when he's leading, but the occasional times when he's fighting with other cars, his tyres don't last very long.
     
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  8. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    <laugh> Brilliant thread. What's it like living with the fairies?
     
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  9. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Have you had too much to drink?
     
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  10. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    Not at all. I just find it funny how so many people on here have their heads so far up their backsides. Forza seeing as you speak like you are full of wisdom. Are you an F1 driver? Or an ex one? Or do you spend a few Saturdays down the go kart track and think you're amazing? How someone can basically pick to pieces a former world champion like you just have must have a rich racing history running through his veins. I don't mind Sir Jackie Stewart or any ex F1 driver coming up with dreams like this because they have actually raced in F1. I doubt you have. You have made this thread for one reason and that is to WUM. <ok>
     
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  11. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Look, I say it how I see it. I've given my opinion and I've presented my points as clearly as possible. I've seen what Hamilton has had to offer in his career and I think McLaren would be better off replacing him. You may not agree with that but it's just my opinion.
     
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  12. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    It was Hamilton's fault today though. I was listening to his gear changes and he was over revving. He shouldn't be allowed near a manual car let alone an f1 one <ok>
     
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  13. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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  14. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    Obviously not a fan of sarcasm either.
     
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  15. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    just out of curiosity does anyone else believe this to be a WUM thread?

    If yes, I'd love to know why.
     
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  16. SgtBhaji

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    I have to say that I don't particularly like this whole tyre management aspect. I know it's the same for all drivers, but racing shouldn't be about having to drive conservatively to maintain rubber in my opinion. It just doesn't sit well with me that aggressive driving and certain styles of setup suffer because of this.
     
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  17. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    No, but as has been shown it's going to cause some strong views.
     
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  18. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Because it's about Hamilton?

    Is it really a sin to criticise Hamilton?
     
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  19. tribo32

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    are you alonso?
    can you realy be sure...
    hamilton is a very good driver and he has had a bad season, lots of drivers have had bad seasons and the only reason that you have hope for him leaving is bvecause you know that when he is back on top form he is a threat to your beloved ferrari.

    your unbelievable bias reminds me of the idiots on the 606 forum. its ok to be biased to a particular driver or team, but completely disregarding reason for the support of your team is not
     
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  20. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    He is arguably the biggest name in F1 in this country (where most of the members are from). But I think in this case its simply because most members don't believe one bad season warrants him getting fired.
     
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