In a nutshell Snodgrass needs to stop going out on the piss and Redmond needs to pass, it's not that ****ing simple!
You agree with all those things and yet you still think a public flogging is the best thing for him? Hughton hasn't referred to it as an order; just an expectation. Certainly Hoolahan and Holt were making agreements between themselves as to who took them so maybe Lambert's expectations weren't always fulfilled either. If it goes in, no one cares. He had a penalty saved. That's all. RVW may not have scored either. Calling him a big head, jerk, demanding public apologies, instant substitutions, and questioning whether he single handedly cost us the game is all about scapegoating IMO. That said, I wouldn't be against dropping him simply because I think we need to find other ways. He's not in his best form and we're too reliant on him. Stop Snodgrass and you stop Norwich. I'm more frustrated with Redmond's tendency to go it alone, and Garrido missing Pilkington and Redmond in good positions. Our problems are on the left.
I was amazed how many times yesterday there was a pass on to RvW available in the middle and his movement was great and he had created space just to be ignored and the ball passed wide only to be wasted by Snoddy or Redmond. We have to try and use RvW; he must be wondering what he has let himself in for.
This is a bizzare thread if I am honest. Snodgrass was excellent yesterday if you take the penalty out of the equation (which was a mystery). He won the ball back over the park, beat Luna so many times it must have been in double figures and linked up really well with the others around him. His crossing wasn't great but that is true for EVERYBODY yesterday except Garrido. People are just looking for a scapegoat, but for me Snodders has to start against Stoke next week.
He wasn't excellent. He didn't put a single cross into a dangerous area. He was like a defender passing back to his goalie.
Neither did Russell Martin, RVW, Elmander, Howson, Pilkington or Redmond. At least he played some great passes ahead of his teammates, especially for Russell Martin.
If Hughton hasn't given instructions about who takes penalties, then my opinion of him goes down further. Yes, RvW MIGHT have missed the penalty (although past performance suggests this was unlikely). But that is not the point. The point is that we are a team and Snodgrass took it on himself to ignore the team decision. Frankly, he is not good enough to justify that kind of arrogance.
Did that logic extend to Lambert when Wes and Holty were making agreements between themselves? If the decision was clearly so bad maybe the rest of the team should have stepped in? Maybe the captain should have exerted some authority? Or maybe the decision just didn't seem so bad until it was saved? I agree this is a bizarre thread. Opta say he actually made 5 successful crosses to dangerous areas. Not 0. Listen to the BBC interviewing Hughton. The reporter comments that Snodgrass "was a constant threat.". He goes on to say "Most of your best work was coming down that side through him". I'm not even claiming his form or performance was good; just that much of this is unwarranted scapegoating.
I think Hughton dropping johnson from the squad completely yesterday is a big message to a lot of the players, he doesn't care about previous game time he will pick the team he thinks best. I'm sure Hughton will be having a stern word with snoddy and won't be afraid to drop him if he sees fit.
Completely agree. I'm surprised RvW hasn't shouted his head off at Redmond. I think RvW is too nice. Currently both our wingers are much too greedy. If I was up front I'd be screaming blue murder every time Redmond takes it past two defenders and then scuffs it wide. Pilks has to start. I'd like to see Olsson at left back and Whittaker at right midfield,at least he looks to cut it back to the striker. We dominated this game, we had lots of possession, we only lost because of a 9/10 performance form Guzan (he always does it to us??) and deserved more, but it was the attacking quartet that aren't firing and I really don't think RvW is the problem in that four. Fer was very tidy again, but we can't rely on him alone.
This isn't me just coming over here defending ex leeds players but this is quite an odd thread. I watched this game and thought he was probably your best player. When it comes to penalties, its annoying when they are not scored however I only tend to get angry when they are missed, the keeper guessed the right way and saved it. Good on him. You can't blame a player for stepping up and backing his own confidence to score a penalty either imo. If RVW wanted it so badly why didn't he put his hand up, Snoddy just walked up without even talking to anyone from my memory just assuming he would take it. Your team didn't create enough from anywhere around the pitch and when something was created it was poor finishing, thats the reason you lost. But Snoddy was tracking back well, made some good challenges in defensive duties and was probably your only reliable outlet. I was very shocked at how poor the rest of the team was, blaming one player won't help that. And I can remember him putting in a couple decent crosses (one that went to the far post to Redmond who cut back for RVW to miss an open goal was one that comes to mind). It seems like you guys just want to lay blame someone but realistically I thought Hughton got tactics wrong so thats where I would lay blame if I were you folks.
i agree with josh's view of snoddy but there was nothing wrong with the way we were setup on saturday - it was down to the players inability to play a good ball at the right time. the decision making was atrocious
Agree with this, also I thought Snodgrass' crossing was abysmal especially his corner kicks which their 'keeper just kept plucking out of the air. Just heard that Johnson had a bust up with CH last Tuesday and that was why he didn't figure at all.
it is always down to the players to decide who takes penalties. i've never known it to be any different so why the distress at it happening now? i can only assume it was because it was missed.
Snodgrass definitely wasn't himself(poor passing and giving the ball away), the whole team were below par though, I think he should be give more competition and it shouldn't be a given that he gets a start but I think the major issue is, who do we use in his stead?
Pilks or Whittaker. I think Whittaker on the right side of midfield would be a useful option - I rate him more for his offensive capabilities than his defensive ones. Pilks on the left and Redmond on the right would be my preferred choice if Snoddy is dropped but Whittaker is an option in my book.
Redmond has been starting out of necessity IMO. Are people forgetting that Pilks was injured through pre-season and only returned to fitness a couple of weeks ago. He is being eased back in to the squad, but IMO will start against Stoke, with Redmond moving out to the right. I have no problem with Snoddy, hes just out of form, think he needs to be dropped to the bench for a week.
