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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Craigo, Nov 3, 2011.

  1. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    "1963 With funds pumped into the club by Harold Needler Manager Cliff Britton re-built the team bringing in the most free-scoring forward-line in the club's history, including Ken Wagstaff, Chris Chilton, Ken Houghton and Ian Butler."

    Sorry, I only just started reading this thread so somebody else might have mentioned this. None of these players were bought in 1963.
     
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  2. C'mon ref

    C'mon ref Well-Known Member

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    Maybe its not implying they were bought in 1963 only that from 1963 funds were available to use thanks to Harold Needler.
     
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  3. petersaxton

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    They might have meant to imply that but the phrase in bold should be excluded from the sentence because it is only explaining where the funds came from.

    "1963 With funds pumped into the club by Harold Needler Manager Cliff Britton re-built the team bringing in the most free-scoring forward-line in the club's history, including Ken Wagstaff, Chris Chilton, Ken Houghton and Ian Butler."

    I would suggest:

    "1960 Chris Chilton joined Hull City as a 17 year old."

    "1963 Harold Needler pumped £200,000 into the club."

    "1964 Cliff Britton bought Ken Wagstaff from Mansfield Town for £40,000.

    "1965 Cliff Britton bought Ken Houghton and Ian Butler from Rotherham United for £40,000 each. These two players joined Chris Chilton and Ken Wagstaff to be part of the most free-scoring forward-line in the club's history."
     
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    C'mon ref Well-Known Member

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    I see the first roof has been put on the houses being built on a place that will forever be sacred to me, never during my childhood, and a good deal of my adulthood, did I think I would see the day that the land now being built on would ever be anything other than Boothferry Park. :emoticon-0101-sadsm:emoticon-0101-sadsm:emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  5. Stuart Blampey

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    Sad as it is to see it go, compare the number of happy days you had at BP to the number you've had at the KC.
     
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    This shows how far we've come. From the £200,000 being pumped into the Club, to £50+million.
     
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  7. Stuart Blampey

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    How much would 200K in 1963 be worth in 2012?
     
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    I thought it was £400,000 that Harold Needler put into the club some of which was used for new floodlights and gymnasium and training ground.
     
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    "Mazzer: I thought it was £400,000 that Harold Needler put into the club some of which was used for new floodlights and gymnasium and training ground."

    If I remember correctly it was £200 thousand + £200 thousand in Hovingham Gravel shares.
    And as you say capital investment on new floodlights, gymnasium and training ground which were reputedly some of the best in Europe at the time
     
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    "TONY_NORMAN'S_ACE Between £3.27m to £9.27m depending on your method of calculation"

    You could buy a house for £2,000 back then and a top class payer for £100,000
    I think it is more like in real terms £20,000,000
     
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  12. Murdoc

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    I wasn't trying to undermine the value of the money in any way and I didn't mean for it to appear that way either however the point I was trying to say the amount of money going into the Club now is a great deal more.
    There is no debating that the value of money in the Sport has fallen significantly as players transfer fees, wages etc all now expect incredibly high and ridiculous sums of money. Back then £200,000 would have definitely been a massive investment but nowadays it's League 2/Blue Square Premier investment.
     
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  13. Stuart Blampey

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    And we were then a third tier club in the doldrums....
     
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  14. C'mon ref

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    To which years are you implying we were a third tier club in the doldrums when Ray Henderson was playing along with Waggy, Chillo and Houghton and Butler?
     
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  15. Stuart Blampey

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    The years immediately before 65/66
     
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    Agree, but it took a while after buying the players to try and knit everything together. I think in the 3 seasons previous to which you mention we finished about 10th or so in the then 3rd division. Then after buying 3 prolific forwards Cliff Britton didn't do much to strengthen the defense until, belatedly he brought in Ken Knighton, brilliant buy, and an aging Bill Baxter, past his best but still a tough player.
     
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  17. Stuart Blampey

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    Eh?

    KK and BB bought by Terry Neill in March 71.....
     
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    They were indeed, exactly that's what I'm getting at, although I've worded it wrong ...... the attack was strengthen but the defense was not, well not until later on and we had to rely on some very past their sell by date defenders until the situation was remedied, which by then of course the attack section had been sussed by the opposition.
     
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    An expensive acquisition at the time...Bill Baxter lasted 7 months due to injury and management disputes before being loaned to Watford and Northampton where he eventually ended up as manager
     
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  20. Stuart Blampey

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    Fell out with Terry Neill I believe. Very good from what little we saw of him.
     
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