It did appear to be a bit more than just pot luck. I added women kids to the list for ticket requests and had more success than lists that appeared far less family orientated.
It's possible that there was a bias towards families etc, it was the assertion that it was people with coin that benefited that I was contesting, as that definitely wasn't the case.
My understanding was that in that first season at least, the sponsors like S&N etc were asking for far more tickets leaving fewer and fewer for normal fans. It's obvious that if S&N for example want 200 tickets for Lpool- City, some of those 200 will be given to favoured customers who are Liverpool fans, rubbernecker types rather than proper fans.
I think that's an urban myth, I know one of our major sponsors and apart from the tickets that he got with his sponsorship deal, he couldn't extra tickets for any of the big games. Even Ash couldn't sort me tickets for either Anfield or Old Trafford and he was our captain ffs.
I know some that worked at one of the larger local employers and they had a rota for who got the freebies, it wasn't always City fans that got them.
I know people who got tickets in the City end at Liverpool in the first season, father and LFC supporting daughter who had her LFC shirt on under her coat - through the club. Actually bumped into him outside Anfield before the game.
There was that incident at Anfield in the second premier league season, where the City fans were pissed off with the dad and his son wearing Liverpool stuff and celebrating Liverpool's opening goal. They were quite aggrivated by it the coppers and the stewards had to step in. The dad and his kid were eventually ejected. His son was in tears and the dad was pissed off. Serves him right in my book. There's segregation issues here and fans can't sit together anymore.
Youv'e deftly changed the subject Agro. I want to know why you think a grown man in a tiger suit is a plastic fan. I saw a life time City fan at Wemblee in one. His name wasn't Tarqiun,it was Paul and he was/ is an Orchard Parker.He's not plastic at all,he just likes a laugh. You know i can't believe this **** is coming from a man who calls himself City agro. A song that originates from a ****ing Garry Glitter tune. HELLO HELLO CITY AGRO CITY AGRO ! Id rather wear the Tiger suit mate.In fact ill get down to Primark tomorrow and get one for Wemblee ! I suppose what im trying to say is,your a snob mate,a City snob ! though !
The sponsors got a ticket allocation as part of their sponsorship deal, whatever they did with them was entirely up to them. I'm sure some went to non City fans, that's disappointing, but as it was their allocation, they could do what they wanted with them. The fact is, that just having a few bob didn't help you getting Premier League tickets, knowing one of our sponsors helped you more, but even then it was limited. This is not an unusual situation, I find things at our national stadium are far worse. I have some of the best seats in Club Wembley, unfortunately, most of the seats around me are owned by large companies. As a consequence, at international games, I am often surrounded by fans of the opposition. I was formally warned about my behaviour with regard to some Russians sat behind me at our game against them and I've just been contacted again about my behaviour at the Holland game. I've told Club Wembley to go **** themselves, this is our national stadium and if they surround me with away fans, then I'll deal with them in any way I see fit. I love football, but I'm not sure I love it quite as much as I used to and I still don't see it as an excuse to slag off newer fans.
Modern rather than new might be a better description, that way it doesn't include all the new fans that are more vocal etc so it should reduce the amount of argument over the term. On the flipside it might just cause a different confusion and promote comments about the alternative being the hooligans of old so modern fans are an improvement. Here's a story about a man in a tiger suit: http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/6564102/Don-t-ask-what-hes-drinking In terms of fans being better dressed these days, is it down to our kits recently being cack and fewer people wearing them, especially this year where it's a crap home shirt without even getting into the sponsor debate? I tend to wear one of my older shirts to games, but I realise a lot of people can't do that because they've grown. Without having a replica shirt to try to include in the outfit it must be easier to be well dressed.
I'm not really sure you are interested in a response as you seem angry and confrontational, but here goes... Paul of OPE can go to Wembley bollocko if he wishes- we are after all in a free country. I'm not sure many people thought the most important game in our history was a laugh, and even if it was, wearing a tiger suit was amusing at any match. Of course, everyone else i also free to hold an opinion of the tiger suit wearer, unless of course I missed the thread where someone was proposing a total ban of tiger suits? The name City Agro? I just like a laugh mate- and I leave the snobbery to others who might have a problem with the song, the singer etc
No bad thing pretty girls going to football matches... one was my girlfriend! Seems some people on here only want a certain type of fan, pretty small minded if you ask me. I like the fact that the Tiger Nation is a mixed nation, young, old, male, female, black and white. UTT !
How is dressing up like a moron "having a laugh"? It's what children do at fancy dress parties. I feel the same way about replica shirts, really, especially since it makes you a walking advertizing hoarding for whichever ****e company sponsors your club. Nothing against shirt-wearers and I'm not saying there's a hierarchy of fans or anything, it just strikes me as a bit puerile. The kerrazy attention-seekers in fancy dress can leave football for all I care. Go support an American sport and drink beer through straws off some silly hat, you cringe machines.
Spaceman came down to answer some things, The world gathered round from paupers to kings, I’ll answer your questions, I’ll answer them true, I’ll show the way you know what to do, Who is wrong and who is right? Yellow, brown or black or white? The spaceman he answered “You’ll no longer mind... I’ve opened your eyes, you’re now colour blind”.
I didn't mean to start this argument! Just observing City fans are better looking these days, better dressed and also there are a fair few southern voices coming in.
I love the irony of this thread being here, whilst at the same time on Channel 5 the tigger movie was playing (a film about a tiger who is miffed at there being more of every other species than tiger - I compare this to being a City supporter in the late 80s / 90s - and sets out to find more tigers. The other characters try and show the tiger some solidarity by dressing up as tigers but this merely infuriates the tiger - he claims that they are taking the piss and aren't "real" tigers - and goes off in search of other tigers. Finally it dawns on him that tigers are few and far between and just to accept the situation he finds himself in. Oh, and before anybody else mentions it, Worst. Metaphor. Ever. On a more serious note, what do the long-term diehards see as the future of the club? 1. Are you going to pack in supporting the club, claiming that it's not the same as the good ol' days and has become sanitised as, one by one, you slowly die off? 2. Do you want to mould newer fans in your own image? Fine, but they've got to learn the ropes rather than constantly get mocked for being different. Or is that some initiation ceremony that they all have to go through? Rather than this ulltra thing where the older fans say "You're all ulltras. Off you go. Support the club." (which is almost tantamount to Gordon Brown saying that we're all potential entrepreneurs in a knowledge economy - "We've offshored all the manufacturing jobs. Off you go. Invent something."), perhaps they should be teaching the younger fans lyrics to songs or about the history of the club (much as Craig seems to be doing in his pinned thread)? 3. Are you going to keep supporting the club the way you have always done, whilst those who have jumped onboard during the times of success are to be mocked and ridiculed, until such time that you have fully transformed the KC into a morgue (literally) and they have done the same (metaphorically)? 4. Other (please give details) There are some serious chips on shoulders out there and all we hear about is problems. Nobody seems to ready to offer solutions other than safe seating being the holy grail that we should just hold out for. Thoughts?
Agree, I want two kinds, good looking women and really ugly men. That way not only are there loads of good looking women around, but by comparison to the rest of the men I look really good as well.