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Daily Racing Thread Thursday 27th. August 2020

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by attivo, Aug 26, 2020.

  1. Grendel

    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    It's not just RPR that is required. You can calculate for yourself how well Dakota Gold had run from the distances he was beaten in his races, The type of horse he is means it is fairly reliable form with seasoned and well established horses to compare his performances with.

    In Dakota Gold's case, he had started the season rated 110 and then been dropped down to 106 across the time span of his races this season. The official handicapper is normally pretty reluctant to drop horses back down the weights and in dropping Dakota Gold from 110 to 109 to 107 and then 106, he would only have done that if the horse had been performing a fair bit below his best. There is no way he would be cutting a horse who had improved about a stone last season any slack if that horse were running to his form.

    The official handicapper actually missed a trick with Dakota Gold because the horse had actually returned to form in the Great St Wilfred, a fact that the Racing Post assessor picked up on with his rating but the Official Handicapper dropped Dakota Gold by a pound to 106. That is something he is going to have to quickly reverse now.

    The trainer explained after yesterday's race that Dakota Gold needs soft ground to be at his best and stated:-

    “The first time he got any ground at all, to half his liking, was at Ripon – where he ran a good race in the Great St Wilfred, but obviously giving too much weight away.

    “Then today, he’s got soft ground – that’s the first time he’s had his conditions (this season).

    “We’d sent him to Sandown, and it was too quick; they said it would be easy (ground) at Newbury, but it was too quick.

    “We felt he was coming back to his best after his Ripon run, and he’s done it nicely today.”

    So there it is. RPRs said Dakota Gold had not been running to form, the Official Handicapper had dropped his mark because he felt the horse was not running to form and the trainer said that the horse had not been running as well as he can because he wasn't getting his ground. That seems clear enough consensus to me about how the horse had performed this season.

    I based my selection on Keep Busy being 7/2 and Dakota Gold 4/1 when making my choice. Had it been 3/1 and 11/2 the pair (SPs) I might have chosen differently but based on the odds and Dakota Gold having just the one good run this season I went with the filly.
     
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  2. NassauBoard

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    I think it’s pronounced well done Stick.
     
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  3. Grendel

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    I think it's referred to as cliquish brown-nosing.
     
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    <laugh> It would have saved you an hour of typing and reading RPRs to have just gone for “well done”. <badger>
     
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  5. stick

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    You just dont like being wrong do you.
    I wish, in fact I feel that I didnt even tip the winner.
     
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  6. Grendel

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    The facts are there, if you don't want to accept them that is fine. Batman and Robin against the world.
     
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  7. Grendel

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    Back to your database son. They are for people who can't read form.
     
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  8. stick

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    The fact is that I tipped the winner and you didnt, I told you that you were wrong before the race. I was right.

    The fact that you have since gone to such exceptional lengths to justify NOT picking the winner really does point to some serious mental deficiency. Please now **** off and tell your counsellor all about it!
     
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  9. NassauBoard

    NassauBoard Well-Known Member

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    says RPR man
     
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  11. OddDog

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    May I ask which of you is Batman?
     
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  12. stick

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    You have met us both, so surely NOT <laugh>
     
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  13. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor
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    <ok> <laugh>
     
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  14. NassauBoard

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    ginger batman?
     
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  15. Grendel

    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    Pretty **** crack that.

    Talk about going to exceptional lengths.

    There really is no justification for talking to a fellow human being in that manner. This is a horse racing forum ffs.

    Deeply sad that an knowledgeable person and excellent selector of winners sees the need to attack another person over **** all in reality.
     
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