He has literally just given an interview in which he himself admits that serious mistakes were made. That interview is the current subject of conversation, with a side thread between myself and HBIC regarding whether or not he places disproportionate blame for those mistakes on the fans. But either way, the buck stops with him, mistakes were made and I am glad at the very least he acknowledges this. As for which chairmen have done better, that's almost impossible to answer as he is by a distance the longest serving chairman currently in the PL, so any data comparison is doomed to be skewed. Looking at the past 5-10 years as a sample, I'd say Tom Werner and Tony Bloom have done a better job, the latter especially so considering the relative size and history of the club when he took over.
He tried a different strategy and it didn't work. That isn't mismanagement, it's wholly reasonable. I don't think he was blaming the fans. He was getting frustrated with near misses, Pochettino was in some sort of crisis and Mourinho comes along and tells him that he can sort it out. Most people would have succumbed.
Secondly you need hundreds of matches to get statistically significant information so looking at the last four years alone is not sensible. But even if you did, it is still above average performance for the club despite the mistakes.
I contend that is not true for Spurs. I already have four data points supporting my thesis (so one more than the three needed for the proverbial pattern) , and at the end of the 2024-25 season I will have five.
And this is the problem: if we hired Martin Jol today, do you think our fanbase would be okay with it or would they be howling that we hired a midtable Eredivisie manager whose main claim to fame as a coach was that he turned down the chance to be Alex Ferguson's No2 at Man Utd? This has nothing to do with club management, and everything to do with a sense of entitlement creeping into our fanbase that now has people questioning managers and players alike, as demonstrated by the absurd howls after we signed Vicario in the summer (which, again, I'm waiting to see retractions for...)
The problem is that it isn't Case in point, certain posters on here were ****ting on Fonseca when he was tipped to be our new manager a couple of years ago
Scott Munn's reportedly started work as our Chief Football Officer today, a mere 82 days after he was expected to thanks to the Mansourites playing silly buggers
Again, you're cherry picking to support a predetermined argument and aren't paying attention to the context. I've already explained why there were howls over Ange's appointment. If the club had gone straight for him from the minute the season finished (or even better: from the day Conte got sacked), I doubt anyone would've got worked up. But as it was, we first had an aborted approach for Nagelsmann, were on the brink of Slot before he turned us down and also got rejected by De Zerbi. So by the time we got on to our fourth option, there were very strong hints of it being groundhog Day of the Nuno summer, and fans were rightly concerned - not about Ange per se, but about the overall context of it looking like we still didn't have a clue what we were doing and were making it up as we went along. This wasn't helped at all by the fact that our shortlist contained candidates who played diametrically opposed styles of football. You can't get much broader than Amorim, De Zerbi and Enrique. Same for the Vicario signing. Had we gone straight in for him from day 1, well and good. But we didn't. We clearly preferred Raya as our first pick and failing to get him (especially when he soon after opened talks with Arsenal) once again raised concerns that we didn't have a clue what we were doing. Take away the context and yes, it does give the impression that our fanbase is a bunch of entitled whiners. But with context, I'd say they are exactly what we are on this board, on average. A diverse bunch of generally very loyal and very goodhearted people with a fantastic sense of humour, who have been starved for decades of glory all the while watching immediate rivals achieve outrageous success. That's all.
No, I'm not, and that is the problem For a start, yes, there were howls at Ange's appointment, including in this very thread, so pretending otherwise is disingenuous (ditto for anyone trying to claim that it's just ****ers on Twitter, especially when you consider several of their buzzphrases are repeated unironically on here) And no, if we went for Ange the day we booted Conte, there would have been howls - partly because Ange likely wouldn't have accepted our offer on the spot, but mainly because the belief he isn't "big enough" due to his CV having the J-League and SPL on it rather than top clubs in England, Spain, Germany, Italy or (at a push) France, Holland or possibly Portugal None of this is due to fan toxicity, either, it's down to something very different: entitlement Look at the manager searches of the last couple of years for some very good examples of this, fans demanding we hire a manager NOW NOW NOW first and foremost, which was particularly obnoxious the summer we ultimately ended up with Nuno. Going back again at your comment, where you're saying we should have made Ange an offer the second Conte was out the door, that's an example of it: managers don't tend to switch jobs that late into a season, especially managers chasing silverware (regardless of which league that silverware is in) so demanding the club make an offer to a manager in that position bears no relation to reality For another example, look at how the word "ambition" gets weaponised even on here, even though it rapidly becomes obvious that the word "ambition" is a euphemism for "spend Man Utd money every summer" which isn't ambitious at all, it's just entitled dick measuring - and dick measuring is pointless considering the sportswashing-backed clubs in the league capable of clicking their fingers to demonstrate that "ambition" never stands up to clubs playing with the cheat codes on Where did this attitude that we're owed something, which has crept in over the last 5-6 years, come from? Last time I checked, we don't sing Rogers & Hammerstein songs before kickoff, nor is our only contribution to the last 50 years of football bottling the league almost as badly as the Nomads last season, yet the attitude of both those fans is noticeable
So this happened IIRC Alasdair Gold said a while back that Gabbanini put his name forward for the DoF role but was turned down, so the liklihood is he's aiming to get that role elsewhere This could also point to a new DoF being on the way and wanting their own team in place, what with Gabbinini being Paratici's right hand ...and yes, Matt Law tried to spin it in a negative way
Weirdly enough, Gross is a much more successful manager than Poch, albeit neither of them can be considered 'elite' and there is a strong case against that accolade going to Conte, too - due to his total lack of success on the European stage. Love him or hate him, Maureen's record pisses all over the rest of them from a great height and he is the only one of them I'd consider 'elite'.
Gross lost two league games at the start of the season, then won at Goodison and got sacked. We'd let Howells and Austin leave that summer and only signed Tramezzani. Possibly one of our worst signings ever. Currently managing Sion in Switzerland. They've rather unbelievably got Reto Ziegler on their books. How is he still playing?!
Ziegler must be about 100 by now. Was such a promising youngster who reportedly let himself down with a poor attitude and work rate in training. I was disappointed it didn't work when we let him go, but then later that summer he was replaced by a young Welshman with prominent ears and the rest, as they say, is history.
When Stevie Wonder met him ,he touched his face and thought he had picked up a cheese grater Christian not Reto
