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Thomas Frank & Johan Lange (& Fabio Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Your Preference For Ange’s Replacement

  1. Thomas Frank

  2. Andoni Iraola

  3. Simone Inzaghi

  4. Marco Silva

  5. Roberto Di Zerbi

  6. Other (state in comments)

  7. Oliver Glasner

  8. Xavi

  9. Mauricio Pochettino

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  1. Left on the Shelf

    Left on the Shelf Well-Known Member

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  2. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Levy's football decisions has left him in a near impossible position.

    When Pochettino rocks up at Chelsea, a sizeable chunk of spurs fans are going to react very badly towards Levy as they are desperate to see him return.

    Potter being appointed will wind up a chunk of fans as he is ; another ex Chelsea manager and a failed one at that.

    Kompany is clearly lining himself up to be the next City manager. He wants to prove himself in the Premier League. He'd be taking on a huge gamble that could severely dent his chances by coming to us whereas he will be in a win win situation staying with Burnley next season.

    Another "top" manager is surely going to look at JM and Conte's time here and steer clear. Not only will they have to rebuild a squad, get CL football and win a pot they'll have to do it without kane's goals.

    That's why I think Mason will our next manager.
     
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  3. Roo

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    Agreed, except for Mason. That’s not going to cut it with the majority of the fan base either.

    the only candidate out there that will tick most of the boxes is Nagelsmann. It’s him or broke.
     
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  4. Citizen Kane.

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    I'd be ok with Glasner or Slot, and Enrique at a push. Frank or De Zerbi would also be fine although they might be harder to poach.

    There are 4-5 pretty strong candidates out there. If Daniel cocks this up, which I think he might, he deserves some sort of an award.
     
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    Tottenham Worst Asshole Trophy
     
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  7. Roo

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    I think the difference for me with Nagelsmann is that he earned the right to manage Bayern, and now has the experience of managing a massive club under his belt.
    It’s not a dig at the others, and perhaps if we weren’t in this mess I’d be all for them. But like I’d say, with things the way they are, he’s the only one that can tick most of the boxes, IMO.
     
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  8. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Think both will still be playing next season otherwise they’d be great.

    Saying that, take them back anyway, they ain’t any worse than Dier or Sanchez, or arguably Romero this season either!
     
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  9. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I’ve said similar. There’s actually a bunch of progressive coaches that are likely gettable this summer or even now.

    If he somehow “Nuno’s” it up then the man has well and truly lost the plot.
     
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    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    What's the worst that can happen, somebody pays off another bot farm to spam every one of the club's tweets?

    When there were dozens of Firstname Bunchofnumbers posting the exact same jpeg within thirty seconds of our U21 results being posted last night, it's obvious that one ****ty blogger is paying their Patreon money for some bots
     
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  11. Citizen Kane.

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    I'm not sure he earned that move tbh as while his Leipzig team was fantastic to watch, he benefitted from an enormous cash injection courtesy of a *cough* fully kosher *cough* sponsorship deal with the company that absolutely has nothing to do with the entirely coincidental inclusion of the letters 'RB' in the club's name.

    Ultimately he fell short of winning a trophy, which is what draws me to Glasner or Slot as they both (the latter not yet but on the brink of) achieved major trophies against the odds. That's what I think we need. Not someone who won things as the favourites, which is partly why Maureen and Conte were such disasters and the main reason I'd be worried about Enrique: it's well and good winning the treble with Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Busquets, Pique, Mascherano, Rakitic, Iniesta and Xavi...try doing it on a cold wet night with Dier and Sessegnon.

    For me, the shortlist in order of preference is:
    Nagelsmann
    Slot
    Glasner
    Frank
    De Zerbi
    Kompany
    Enrique
     
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  12. Roo

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    Most fans thought Nuno was a poor choice, and whilst I don’t think we’ll ever see that again anytime soon, I do wonder whether some of these other coaches could also be poor choices in their own way, even if the football isn’t like Nuno.

    This appointment is so crucial for Levy, even more so than it was when he sacked Nuno.

    whilst I completely agree that these progressive managers (slot in particular) could work, it’s another ball game moving to the PL, especially to us and our unique mess at the moment.

    Brighton for example, have shown that a clear plan results in a seamless transition, as we saw when potter left. We are miles from that.

    imo, we need a manager who is progressive, held in high regard, AND comes with experience of a top job.

    that literally leaves Nagelsmann.

    This is why I can’t believe we weren’t in for Poch, with all things considered.
     
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    Yep, fair points. In particular, I’m not against slot at all for the reasons you suggest. He could be our “Ten Haag”.

    Nagelsmann would essentially get at least the same amount of backing he got at Leibzig with us, so I’m not worried about that.

    But whilst I agree that some the others are doing a great job, I wonder how many of them would genuinely be able to handle this mess.

    time will tell.
     
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  14. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I’ve said the same RE Poch, even if we ended up not choosing him over another candidate, the fact every reliable journalist has said we didn’t even approach or contact him is just madness. He’s a manager primed for the position we’re in and above 90% of other candidates he’s proven in the Premier League with two different clubs. He should’ve been one of our top three candidates.

    As for the rest, the reputation genuinely doesn’t bother me. It’s their style of management that does. Nagelsmann would be my preference too but lists both I and CK have typed contain numerous managers who I think would be good fits if given sufficient time and backing. I’ve become a really big fan of Thomas Frank for instance, seems a genuinely likeable bloke (for both fans and players) and knows how to incorporate a style to suit a philosophy as well as integrate both youth and established players into that style. I’d be 100% behind him just as I would be Nagelsmann, Poch or Slot.
     
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  15. BobbyD

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    If pochy comes to us i'm actually quite excited. He's the sort of coach we need for our young and up coming players and i like his tactics of old. no more park the bus footie.
     
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  16. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I can see him doing the business for you. Potter was very unlikely to have the authority and time to get Boehly to make sensible decisions. I think Poch has a decent shot at that and will work out who he needs on the squad front and who needs moving on.

    He's a very decent person and, truth to tell, I'm gutted he's taking the job...
     
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  17. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    As am I but equally can’t blame him. He’d have said yes to a return within a 5 minute chat if asked, the bloke still wears our merch. Levy’s pride has prevented that call from happening and now this Chelsea job has arisen which is literally made for him.

    What’s even more worrying though is if Chelsea don’t get Europe next season which is looking likely, Poch-ball with one game a week is gonna be a real ****ing problem for the league.
     
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    Interesting

     
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  19. PowerSpurs

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    If you look at the managers in England since the war who have made a real difference you get a list like Shankly, Busby, Nicholson, Clough, Paisley, Ferguson and Wenger. All of those presided over the then best periods ever for their clubs. Only Wenger had won a trophy in a major league before being appointed and three of them had never even had a managerial job before.
    You could make an argument for Mourinho and Guardiola to be in the list but they've generally only won things when they had big budgets.
    This tells me that appointing a manager is more of a lottery than a test of competence.
     
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  20. Roo

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    The only one not to face the penalty. Must have stayed 20 yards away, hiding in the corner.
     
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