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Thomas Frank & Johan Lange (& Fabio Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Your Preference For Ange’s Replacement

  1. Thomas Frank

  2. Andoni Iraola

  3. Simone Inzaghi

  4. Marco Silva

  5. Roberto Di Zerbi

  6. Other (state in comments)

  7. Oliver Glasner

  8. Xavi

  9. Mauricio Pochettino

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  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    Dier put on too much muscle and it's debatable whether Alli has, too.
    Everyone should learn the language, though.
    Embarrassing when players are here for years and they don't.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    But enough about Wayne Rooney...
     
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  3. KingHotspur

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    Been a month since Spurs last won a match in 90mins. September has been dreadful.
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Nobody post that ****ing Green Day song...
     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

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    So it seems that r/coys has decided: if Nuno does go, we want Ernesto Valverde, because he must be good if he managed Barca

    ...oh wait, no, now we want Lucien Favre, because he must be good if he managed Dortmund

    Just a reminder, Valverde has been out of work since January last year while Favre has been out of work since last December
     
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  6. KingHotspur

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    I could see Levy going for Eddie Howe <laugh>
     
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  7. The Huddlefro

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    Please, please no
     
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  8. remembercolinlee

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    tenor (14).gif
     
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  9. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    It’s pretty bad though that Howe would probably be a better fit than Nuno…
     
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  10. KingHotspur

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    Yeah I know <laugh>
     
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  11. Citizen Kane.

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    "Poch is cleverer than me."

    "He saw things that I didn't see. I thought we had a very good squad."

    - Alderweireld in an interview last night.
     
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  12. SpursDisciple

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  13. Spurf

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    And how far that is from the ranting opinions of so many fans. Football clubs are an organisation, in the case of a club like Spurs, a large organisation. Most people can't run a sweet shop and yet the opinions on how to run Spurs keep coming. Who can manage a football team? Mostly former footballers and that's because you need respect from your players and that is more difficult if you did not play the game at as high or higher level than the players you coach. Some non players have managed at the highest level but generally football looks within it's ranks for management. This makes the appointment of any manager in football pretty much a matter of chance even when, as we have seen at Spurs, you employ the man with the biggest reputation of all. So much depends on man management skills which for me rate higher as a requirement than tactical ability. You can always employ tacticians, as Fergusson did for example, but unless you carry the respect of your players it is futile. Just look across the current SKY pundits and imagine managing them as players. Some of them even now in their older mellower days would still represent a nightmare if they didn't like your approach. Nuno has a helluva job on his hands with likes of a distracted Kane not the least of his worries. I will be surprised if he succeeds because so many factors are against him including not least the impatience of the fans who since the huge high of the CL semi final against Ajax have watched a downward spiral ever since. I look forward to the day when I once again look forward to the next Spurs game; right now I don't.
     
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  14. Spurf

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    What for? The next big safe deposit heist. Add Sean Dyche and maybe Pullis for a dream team.
     
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  15. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Better style of play, albeit not substantial.
     
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  16. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    It really isn't, unless a candidate is selected by drawing a name out of a hat, from a large number of options.

    There is risk in a properly conducted recruitment process, that can be offset by proper analysis of the skills of the coaching candidate and the capabilities of the playing squad and the needs and resources of the club.

    When you appoint a defensive minded coach, to replace the failed defensive coach you had to sack, to manage a squad of players who are defensively weak, without the funds to rectify the weakness, it's not due to chance that it goes tits up...

    ...it's inevitable and very predictable.
     
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  17. Spurf

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    You are talking about styles of plays, outcomes will always be a risk. You can reduce the odds, in the case of PL football, with money, but even then injury can mess with your plans. Look at Liverpool with and without Van Dijk, the difference between winning the PL or not. Whether Nuno is a defensive coach is open to argument . Although being Portuguese makes the case for defensive stronger. That proper analysis you describe is still down to opinion and basically you are choosing a position that suits your current mindset. You can't blame ENIC, as you want to, do unless you can define the fault. Your definition is, as I said, based on opinions, I have a different one.
     
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  18. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I'm not precluding you from having a different opinion. I support your right to be as wrong as you like...

    ...but claiming that the appointment of Nuno is going wrong due to pure chance needs correcting.

    It was a panicked, idiotic appointment of a manager who wasn't going to address any of the significant issues in the squad. He was given 2 years because nobody at the club believed in it...and for the same reason, he'll be gone pretty soon.
     
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  19. The Huddlefro

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    I wrote a longer post just now which turned into a bit of a rant about everything, which I won’t post. But something is clearly wrong at Spurs and has been for years. On the pitch and off.

    I feel sorry for Nuno. He’s an obvious short-term compromise solution for a club who had no manager mere days before the start of preseason, having spent weeks trying to get one. There’s a malaise around the group of players and has been for a number of years now, and Nuno is the 4th manager trying to fix it.

    Paratici did good business over the summer IMO but the process of appointing him seems to have been a complete mess and the more you hear about how it went down the more it smacks of opportunism rather than a long term plan to change the structure of the club. He seemingly doesn’t share Levy’s vision for how the club should play football and that’s a recipe for a mess.

    From top to bottom, something is rotten at Tottenham. Management can’t seem to think past the latest shiny golden goose that passes under their noses and the players seem stuck in a collective malaise that has existed since 2018-ish and has persisted through many of that golden team leaving. Paratici has a hell of a job on his hands because this whole shower needs rebuilding from the ground up.
     
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  20. remembercolinlee

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    Warching Bournemouth was like watching a diarhritic dog taking a dump for his last 2 seasons in charge...fluid but without substance
     
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