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Thomas Frank & Johan Lange (& Fabio Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Your Preference For Ange’s Replacement

  1. Thomas Frank

  2. Andoni Iraola

  3. Simone Inzaghi

  4. Marco Silva

  5. Roberto Di Zerbi

  6. Other (state in comments)

  7. Oliver Glasner

  8. Xavi

  9. Mauricio Pochettino

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  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    It depends where we're talking about

    In Ligue 1 FFP is absolutely worth the paper it's printed on and it's enforced pretty harshly, which is why clubs tend to be complete bastards to deal with as they see in-demand players as a way of complying with those measures for 2-3 years, and even though PSG can spend other teams out of the water even they have to comply - but that's undermined by them having such deep pockets they can comply while also taking the piss, for example loaning in Mbappe with a clause that would make the loan permanent after an insultingly low number of games, but as that would have been triggered in February/March of that season both PSG and Monaco were happy with such a bogus arrangement

    I also believe that Serie A also has an internal form of FFP, which is why so many deals are things like a two-year loan with an obligation to buy at the end of the loan because that means the club with the obligation (and it's usually Milan or Inter who make these deals) can defer the payment for a year or two so spread their spending out accordingly

    And this is ultimately what it comes down to: The FA and/or Premier League could install an internal FFP measure anytime they wanted if they were so inclined, but they don't - however the problem is those can be got around very easily, as outlined with how PSG and the Milan clubs routinely circumvent them, so it would be a matter of weeks before one of the usual suspects of the Premier League did the same thing while a club such as Spurs, Leicester or Everton (let alone Brighton, Southampton or Burnley) would be less able to do that because they don't have the finances to effectively say they can pay a generous loan fee one summer before a very generous fee the next
     
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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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  3. Spurlock

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    Spurs have also contacted Gareth Southgate’s representatives

    Levy takin the piss
     
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  4. Citizen Kane.

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    If it happens, as said, I am done.

    And I will probably miss this forum more than I will miss the actual club.
     
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  5. Spurlock

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    You don’t have to leave the forum...we will all need each other’s consoling in the future, your work here is not done.
     
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  6. Tilly'sowner

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    Have heard this elsewhere. If true, very worrying.
     
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  7. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Nope.
    Softening you up for a "lesser of two evils" managerial appointment.

    If that is the plan, then I want Cthulhu as the next Spurs manager
    (the post FT grilling of the team will be literally that) .
     
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  8. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I think the Southgate rumours have stemmed from Duncan Castles who’s as reliable as a spacker on Twitter that puts “ITK” in their name.

    Ally Gold and his sidekick, Rob Guest, have both said the likes of Southgate, Howe, Sarri, Nuno and Marcelino rumours are wide of the mark. They seem to think ten Hag is now the favourite whilst Potter and Martinez also have admirers.
     
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  9. Roo

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    Don’t even think about retreating to your cave. We ain’t letting that happen! <cheers>
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Duncan Castles, a source so reliable that I honestly think his name is Keith Forte

    Which reminds me, has he linked us with Dani Alves again? He's like clockwork with that one
     
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  11. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Various reports say that we are set to begin negotiations for Erik ten Hag once Ajax wrap up the Eredivisie title

    Ajax are eight points clear at the top of the Eredivisie with a +33 GDF with four games to go

    What're the odds they lose to Emmen this coming weekend while second-placed PSV beat Heerenveen 17-0 to delay discussions by a week or two?
     
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  12. Spurf

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    Southgate must be the least qualified England manager since Walter Winterbottom. The chief qualifications to become England manager now seem to be the ability to say yes to the FA and the wearing of a suit and tie as unimaginably as you manage football teams.
    It's a bit like the Raheem Stirling followers who in turn remind me of the Francis Lee devotees. Runs around a lot beat the odd player and have no end product..

    In Lee's case he later appropriately made a fortune selling toilet rolls. <laugh>
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    For some reason Fabrizio Romano has deleted the tweet where he claimed Monster Energy Dusseldorf were going to make a move for Erik ten Hag. Now why is that?
     
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  14. humanbeingincroydon

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    A handful of choice quotes from Alasdair Gold's latest article

    Tottenham have a crop of exciting young players coming through the academy and are also expected to move on a number of players this summer.

    Ten Hag's contract has just 12 months left to run at Ajax, making him an inexpensive option in terms of compensation.

    The club have begun to filter out names from their long list of potential targets to create a shortlist of those to be formally spoken to, or requested to speak to, rather than simply intermediaries sounded out about availability.

    Former Juventus boss Massimiliano Allegri, while a different fit to others, is an attractive proposition to Tottenham, with his list of honours and the fact that unlike the other managers, he would come without a compensation fee at a tough time for the club's finances. However, his lack of English could count against him in making the shortlist.

    Another who falls into the inexpensive category is the out of work Ralf Rangnick, the 62-year-old experienced former RB Leipzig and Schalke boss who plays the brand of football that would suit Tottenham. He has been a director of football in recent years before this period out of the game.
     
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  15. KingHotspur

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    The fact Spurs are looking at inexpensive options shows the problem the club has.

    At this stage they should be going for the best option not the cheapest
     
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  16. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    We've literally just had the most expensive option though.

    Besides, the best option may also be the cheapest one too. Ten Hag now seems the favourite for many Spurs fans.
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

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    Expensive ≠ Best

    Case in point, Brendan Rodgers would cost more to hire than either Nagelsmann or ten Hag would, so does that make Rodgers the best option?
     
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  18. PleaseNotPoll

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    Rangnick kind of Levy'd himself with Red Bull though, taking on too much and micromanaging stuff that needed to be left to other people.
    It would be interesting to see if he could be persuaded to take the DoF role with someone like ten Hag as coach.
    I'm not sure he'd want that though, as he's rumoured to want back in as a manager.

    He speaks good English, which is a bonus.
     
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  19. The Huddlefro

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    Exactly this. I think with a different style and more effective coaching the first XI (assuming no significant departures) isn’t in awful shape. If a manager who promotes youth comes in and trusts the likes of Rodon and Skippy then we only really need outright starting XI quality upgrades at CB and RB. Maybe an attacker to play on the right of a 3 but we have options there, albeit none I’m entirely happy with. So maybe 3 new starters.

    It’s a lot of the squad filler that needs replacing. The likes of Sissoko, Winks, Bergwijn, Lamela, Sanchez, Dele, Dier, Lucas, all these guys for one reason or another are on borrowed time now. Either they’ve not stepped up to confirm a starting place, massively declined, or have objectionable injury records. Arguably even Tanguy and Gio need to look over their shoulders.

    I think if coached to play in the right manner then a starting XI not dissimilar to the one below has a lot of potential to do well in the PL. The issue is that the rest of the squad just aren’t good enough to push the starters on by seriously challenging for a spot, and don’t consistently step up when playing due to injury or rotation.

    Lloris
    New RB New CB Rodon Regulion
    Skipp Højbjerg
    New RW Tanguy/Gio Son
    Kane
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    At a guess, Gold was referring to Skipp, Sessegnon, Devine, and at least one of Rodon and Tanganga - with outside shouts for Scarlett and Clarke as well

    In terms of outgoings, Rose, Aurier, Sissoko and Lamela are surely top of the list, and it wouldn't surprise me if at least one of our senior CBs was up there either, and to be honest Doherty might also wind up on there if we get the HG balance sorted

    So using ten Hag's 4213 formation as a base, a conservative assumption for how we'll line up would be

    Lloris; NEW RB, Remaining CB, Rodon/Tanganga, Reguilon; Hojbjerg, Skipp; Lo Celso/Ndombele; Bergwijn, Kane, Son
     
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