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This quagmire is becoming messy

Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by Plymborn, Jun 24, 2011.

  1. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Been delayed a week mexijan,probably until they get some more players to make it worthwhile.....................

    This ruling on not being allowed to be involved in more than one club at a time is definately being pushed to the limit.

    Heaney is the obvious front man for the so called Irish consortium, he wasn't stupid enough to go to the very informative "meeting" on Monday (27th).

    Probably because he couldn't answer any questions that would have been asked of him.

    The giving away of the football club rather "hastily" probably keeps him just the rightside of being legal with the Football Leagues ruling on club ownership.

    The term "Irish Bidder" could be the clue...........isn't Heaney originally an irish name and probably has it's roots in "Dublin"...hence "a Dublin millionaire" it might be as simple as that.

    He does seem to be a "good friend" of Stapleton using his Office facilities for his original Argyle play in March (PAFC 2011),using his girl friends name on the paperwork.

    Maybe we've been making it to complicated. it's Heaney all along, we probably dont need to look any further, if so how would that fit with the FL bosses.

    There's got to be more twist and turns to follow yet..........so get working on it Hercule Poiret and Jane Marple......give Agatha a helping hand.
     
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  2. notDistantGreen

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    It's been categorically stated that:

    1) The football club will NEVER be the property of the bidding consortium. It will pass directly to Ridsdale.

    2) Heaney is a local consultant to an overseas buyer - this is quite a common arrangement. He is not only experienced in UK property dealing but in property dealing in the south west AND in football. You could hardly find a more relevant adviser.

    3) Heaney is an adviser to the property operation NOT the football side of it. Ridsdale's firmly fronting the latter it appears.

    4) None of the former directors are to be involved with the new football club. It may or may not be that they are involved in the property side - they do after all have substantial secured loans secured on it. I couldn't care less as long as the club's future is assured.

    This may indeed all be a smokescreen but these statements have been crystal clear and on the face of it, Heaney has no connection to the football club and neither will the ex directors.

    Speculation in the gaps between the known facts is one thing. Speculation which flies in the face of what's been stated very firmly is another.
     
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  3. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Until the football club was seperated from the property deal Heaney was the wrong side of the FL's ruling on ownership,that was why his original bid in March was withdrawn.

    For someone that is supposed to be experienced in such dealings and using his girlfriends name up front as well, it does seem a bit suspicious that he even started such a bid.

    To generously split the property from the football club into seperate parts of the deal and "giving" the football side away for a nominal payment makes me wonder how clever the man actually is, maybe I'm not sure about someone who went through liquidation procedure not to long ago.
     
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  4. notDistantGreen

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    Had it occurred to you he saw PAFC as a cheap route to the Football League and intended to ditch Truro until he was outed?

    Absolute speculation but just as feasible as any other guesswork.
     
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  5. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Heaney's property company went pop i understand. He seems no different than Toad and co.I may be wrong, time will tell. I think there are a lot of disgruntled fans now.
     
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  6. homepark_hobo

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    As things stand Distant this would be the most likely reason for his involvement.

    Yes he would want to have the land to develop but he is a football fan and I imagine (IMO) at some point in the future he will be an active member of the board running the club.
     
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  7. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Hobo, what about Truro? he will have to leave them as he can't be on two clubs boards
     
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  8. homepark_hobo

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    It is obvious in that scenario Joe. He will leave and flog the club off to someone else.
     
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  9. notDistantGreen

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    Businesses go bust unfortunately. That doesn't make everyone involved in them crooks or anything close to that.

    Some are incompetent like our lot, that's true, but there are also a lot who try their best but are simply the victims of circumstances.

    I don't know anything about Heaney but don't you think a bit less of the shoot first & ask questions afterwards would be a good thing?
     
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  10. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Well it seems he is not liked in Plymouth. I have no idea why. A chump of Stapletons. Its all to secretive also. We will never know what is going on.
     
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  11. sensiblegreeny

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    And like all good lemmings joe we mushrooms are not supposed to know. If he ditched Truro and jumped on this bandwagon I wonder what our Cornish friends would make of that and their willingness to continue support of Argyle. Take the Cornish out of Home Park and that will severely hit the club. On balance I hope he is not involved with the football side and sticks to advising on buildings.
     
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  12. Greenarmyjoe

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    Agree Sensible, we need the cornish support. He is no good at either Buildings or Football,
     
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  13. mexijan

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    There was some dodgy dealings just before his company went bust, work done on Truro ground but he got them to bill his company rather than the club. His girlfriend was also in court over a mortgage obtained by declaring fraudlent earnings which he seemed to be tied up into. Still have a bad feeling about this, hope it´s wrong, but we just got to jump back on the rollercoaster ride that is PAFC at the moment.
     
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  14. Greenarmyjoe

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    Agrre Mexi, and throw the ****ers off the roller coaster or don't let them on, Heaney and co are no good it seems. No body has a good word, now you have told us why he is disliked, seems a crook like mr Toad
     
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  15. mexijan

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    Though in his defense he does like Russian women :emoticon-0110-tongu
     
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  16. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Well i think most men like the Russian women! :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  17. greens_are_good_for_you

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    As a Cornishman I can tell you now most green-blooded Argyle fans have little time for Truro City and even less for Heaney. The Truro City bubble will burst with or without Heaney. As for Heaney's failed business, as reported in the local press he builds up a high debt on the company and then liquidates it leaving his other companies to prosper. Astute businessman or cheating bastard - make up your own mind.
     
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  18. Michael71

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    Okay so now the deal is done, but I'm hearing it might collapse again because the PFA don't like it.
     
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  19. notDistantGreen

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    The PFA are all mouth & no trousers. Are they seriously going to take an old & established league club under and put a 20 man squad, a manager and coaches out of work? No.

    As I understand it, the club are obliged to make good the shortfall in players' wages and will do that, albeit over a period of time. That won't happen if the PFA puts the club into liquidation, which they certainly will if they obstruct the deal now.

    Only one player has had a problem, Arnason and he clearly knew exactly what he was doing, so are they going to sacrifice the rest for a one man awkward squad? No.
     
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  20. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    It seems Rory Patterson has a problem similar now. The whole mess has been talked about now in Parliament so i understand, but they all talk **** any way!
     
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