Off Topic This is so sad

[Evil Jimmy Krankie]

The more I read about these things the more I’m convincing myself that I should go vegetarian.
It doesn’t matter what you think about sharks. They are living things and don’t deserve to die just to become a trophy photograph on someone’s living room wall.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/sh...shark-catch-as-ocean-vandalism-ng-b881810587z

 

[spirit of 73]

Agree mate here's someone trying to gain public sympathy. Double standards what!!

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[Confucius]

I agree EJK. Takes me back to when we had a small fox problem at one of the schools, nothing major just crap all over and the primary school kids used to see them out of the window and gave them names.
However, little Miss Head Teachers wasn't happy, we explained they are frail things, will only attack something to escape, let them get on with it after all, we have built on their land really and they need somewhere to go. But she was adamant they had to go. I found out that you can't transport foxes to rural areas, as they wouldn't survive for themselves so they had to be trapped and "Despatched". I went through the whole scenario of how they would lure them into a trap and because they make so much noise when trapped and due to the locality of houses, they would just shoot them once they started snacking on their treat, we even identified a shooting position, the lot. I tried my best to stop it and went to the Wildlife officer at the Council, Christ we build the kids ponds so they can look at wildlife, now we want to kill the bigger stuff. Thankfully they sent a letter out saying that they don't advocate killing of foxes, but mainly because if you got rid, there is always another one coming along to take its territory
In another school we also found an injured fox, so called RSPCA, the little thing was scared but looked like it was asking for help. Unbelievably the RSPCA came out, shot it down the burn and just left it. WTF?

 

[Evil Jimmy Krankie]

I agree EJK. Takes me back to when we had a small fox problem at one of the schools, nothing major just crap all over and the primary school kids used to see them out of the window and gave them names.
However, little Miss Head Teachers wasn't happy, we explained they are frail things, will only attack something to escape, let them get on with it after all, we have built on their land really and they need somewhere to go. But she was adamant they had to go. I found out that you can't transport foxes to rural areas, as they wouldn't survive for themselves so they had to be trapped and "Despatched". I went through the whole scenario of how they would lure them into a trap and because they make so much noise when trapped and due to the locality of houses, they would just shoot them once they started snacking on their treat, we even identified a shooting position, the lot. I tried my best to stop it and went to the Wildlife officer at the Council, Christ we build the kids ponds so they can look at wildlife, now we want to kill the bigger stuff. Thankfully they sent a letter out saying that they don't advocate killing of foxes, but mainly because if you got rid, there is always another one coming along to take its territory
In another school we also found an injured fox, so called RSPCA, the little thing was scared but looked like it was asking for help. Unbelievably the RSPCA came out, shot it down the burn and just left it. WTF?

I was enjoying reading that until the last paragraph. That made EJK sad.

 

[The Norton Cat]

Hunting for 'sport' or trophies, I cannot abide. Hunting for food, as long as it is sustainable and all of the animal is utilised, I consider to be acceptable. It is, after all, part of the natural process. In some cases, culling to maintain the viability of a population or environment/habitat is necessary.
Everyone turning vegetarian/vegan is not beneficial to animals though. If no one eats meat, many domesticated species and many managed species (e.g. grouse) will no longer be economically viable and will disappear.

 

[Confucius]

I was enjoying reading that until the last paragraph. That made EJK sad.

Sorry lad, me too.

 

[Sunderpitt]

Agree about big game trophy hunters, they themselves should be hung on a wall...

Not so sure about foxes, rats with furry tails. I've seen what they do to chickens and young lambs. Not keen on horse fox hunting, you can just use shotgun.
Then there us urban foxes, they tend to come out at night, very loud when mating or fighting.

 

[Gil T Azell]

The more I read about these things the more I’m convincing myself that I should go vegetarian.
It doesn’t matter what you think about sharks. They are living things and don’t deserve to die just to become a trophy photograph on someone’s living room wall.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/sh...shark-catch-as-ocean-vandalism-ng-b881810587z

Yes I saw that yesterday. Cannot imagine it ever stopping even with a law change. Disgusting in my opinion.Just awful.

 

[Disco down under]

I hate sharks. We are just so ****ing feeble in their house. Stuff of nightmares.

That said, trophy fishing is pretty damn grim. They ought to be force fed all 395kgs of the thing.

 

[Evil Jimmy Krankie]

I hate sharks. We are just so ****ing feeble in their house. Stuff of nightmares.

That said, trophy fishing is pretty damn grim. They ought to be force fed all 395kgs of the thing.

I do fair bit of open water swimming. I know the risks I take when I put on the wetsuit and hit the water. I’ll happily be feeble!!
And most definitely they should be force fed every single bit of the shark.

 

[Confucius]

I do fair bit of open water swimming. I know the risks I take when I put on the wetsuit and hit the water. I’ll happily be feeble!!
And most definitely they should be force fed every single bit of the shark.

Changing tack a bit but as you know working from home, I watch a lot of daytime TV which includes, Police Force Australia. In one episode, they had the helicopter up as they were tracking a shark just offshore, the beach was packed as was the water. Police were involved in trying to get people out of the sea, but the amount of nonchalance and complete disregard for the situation was quite remarkable. People just didn't give a **** and completely ignored the officers, prompting one to say on camera, "If people don't want to leave the sea, we cant make them".
It may have even been your neck of the woods at Fremantle

 

[Montysoptician]

I do fair bit of open water swimming. I know the risks I take when I put on the wetsuit and hit the water. I’ll happily be feeble!!
And most definitely they should be force fed every single bit of the shark.

A few years ago we were down at Busselton, swimming next to the pier. We felt pretty safe because they had the shark nets out and we were swimming within them. I swam out to the very end of the nets, following a shoal of fish and then swam down to see how deep they went. The nets were only around two meters deep in about six meters of water leaving a massive gap at the bottom for anything to get under, I was out the water like a shot . The daft thing was the day after we were snorkelling at Meelup in open water and never thought about sharks .

 

[MrRAWhite]

Agree about big game trophy hunters, they themselves should be hung on a wall...

Not so sure about foxes, rats with furry tails. I've seen what they do to chickens and young lambs. Not keen on horse fox hunting, you can just use shotgun.
Then there us urban foxes, they tend to come out at night, very loud when mating or fighting.

Fox hunting for sport with hounds is disgusting and has no place in civilised society.

 

[Evil Jimmy Krankie]

Changing tack a bit but as you know working from home, I watch a lot of daytime TV which includes, Police Force Australia. In one episode, they had the helicopter up as they were tracking a shark just offshore, the beach was packed as was the water. Police were involved in trying to get people out of the sea, but the amount of nonchalance and complete disregard for the situation was quite remarkable. People just didn't give a **** and completely ignored the officers, prompting one to say on camera, "If people don't want to leave the sea, we cant make them".
It may have even been your neck of the woods at Fremantle

That’s Fremantle for you. They’re a bit special down there. I tend to open water swim at Hillarys Boat Harbour or Sorrento. If I was being told to get out of the water because of a shark I’d beat every record going. The officer was right. They’re well within their rights to be a hors d'oeuvre for a passing Great White if they want to be.

 

[Evil Jimmy Krankie]

A few years ago we were down at Busselton, swimming next to the pier. We felt pretty safe because they had the shark nets out and we were swimming within them. I swam out to the very end of the nets, following a shoal of fish and then swam down to see how deep they went. The nets were only around two meters deep in about six meters of water leaving a massive gap at the bottom for anything to get under, I was out the water like a shot . The daft thing was the day after we were snorkelling at Meelup in open water and never thought about sharks .

The swim leg on Ironman WA used to be around Busselton Jetty. It’s only the last 200 metres or so that it gets deep. Most of the way out you can see the bottom. Still more than deep enough for a shark mind!

 

[Montysoptician]

The swim leg on Ironman WA used to be around Busselton Jetty. It’s only the last 200 metres or so that it gets deep. Most of the way out you can see the bottom. Still more than deep enough for a shark mind!

Maybe not six meters of water where I was then EJK but there was still a massive gap at the bottom of the nets We had just walked to the end of the jetty and seen the underwater observatory so sharks were probably at the forefront of my mind and that spooked me.

 

[Chip]

Agree about big game trophy hunters, they themselves should be hung on a wall...

Not so sure about foxes, rats with furry tails. I've seen what they do to chickens and young lambs. Not keen on horse fox hunting, you can just use shotgun.
Then there us urban foxes, they tend to come out at night, very loud when mating or fighting.

Foxes don't just kill for food, if they get into a chicken shed they will kill as many as they can catch, not that they are being evil or anything its just their nature. Farmers need to make sure they protect their livestock better in these cases rather than getting the local village hunt to chase the foxes across the country with hounds that will rip it to shreds once it is so exhausted it can no longer run.

Shooting them is an option but more often than not this also causes non fatal injuries resulting in a drawn out painful death when the fox cannot hunt due to the injuries sustained (maybe affecting fox cubs too). Personally I would prefer better buildings and livestock enclosures to stop them getting near. This is probably more difficult with lambs on a hillside though, but I suspect that an adult sheep will see off a fox the majority of times.

Apparently male Alpacas make great guards and protect both chickens and sheep with their smell enough to put off a fox.

 

[Chip]

The more I read about these things the more I’m convincing myself that I should go vegetarian.
It doesn’t matter what you think about sharks. They are living things and don’t deserve to die just to become a trophy photograph on someone’s living room wall.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/sh...shark-catch-as-ocean-vandalism-ng-b881810587z

Becoming a vegetarian wont prevent pricks catching trophy's though. It may make you feel better but the world is still full of cruel and nasty people who are excited by killing beautiful wild creatures.

If we don't eat cows we will be overrun with them in 10 years, licking your windows and crapping on the lawn.

 

[clockstander]

Pricks catching trophy's the world is full of cruel and nasty people who are excited by killing beautiful wild creatures.

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[rooch 3]

Becoming a vegetarian wont prevent pricks catching trophy's though. It may make you feel better but the world is still full of cruel and nasty people who are excited by killing beautiful wild creatures.

If we don't eat cows we will be overrun with them in 10 years, licking your windows and crapping on the lawn.

The truth is mate if we stopped eating farm animals they would be virtually extinct in about 3 months and within 2 to 3 years there would be hardly any footpaths to walk in the national park as you would be wading through about 4ft of brambles and scrub there would also be no buzzards etc because everything they eat would be hidden and there is no carrion as it’s already been dispatched but tell a vegan or veggie that and they are convinced the people who look after them and the land will just carry on as normal so I realised fairly quickly you are talking to somebody who’s not to bright and live in a fantasy world.