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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Teessidemackem, Nov 28, 2022.

  1. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    I don’t miss it at all mate, I would like to go up when we have a team that can do more than compete with the bottom three, otherwise I’m happy where we are <ok>
     
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  2. Bob the Mackem

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    That is not true mate his agent is only working on Everton and Rangers.
    That was upto last week
     
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  3. John Wick

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    People need to realise unfortunately we have another Maja situation on our hands and have done for months. Little hints have been dropped in on this forum a few times. We have a structure and are willing to break it for no one. We will lose more players down the line because of simlar situations. We may have a very wealthy owner, but self sustainability is exactly what it says on the tin. Buy low, sell high and stick to the business set up ie wages ect. Imo Stewart is away in January, I hope I'm wrong, but i won't be pinning any hopes on him.
     
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  4. Bob the Mackem

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    You know the craic, over the past 2 month it's been ongoing. i can't understand why the club don't tell the fans the truth, yes KS is trying to get a working model going, but if Ross wants away and his agent is still touting him, make a statement saying we have made our best offer within our wage structure and it's not enough.
     
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    Spot on
     
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  6. Southern A

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    that would be fair enough if we’ve made our best offer. I guess the only person who knows if we’ve made our best offer is KLD, no matter what he tells others. And even then he may change his mind.

    No point closing the door on it and backing themselves into a corner on the basis of “being honest with the fans”. I’d rather Speakman and KLD did what was best for the club even if that meant never telling the fans anything and keeping everything tight lipped
     
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  7. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Any team that gets promoted will only challenge near the bottom mate. Even if we came straight down the money we'd gain would be ridiculous. Beats staying in the Championship and holding off to get promoted because we're scared of losing lots of games in the Premiership
     
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  8. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    can’t see that scenario happening. We don’t NEED to sell him now and he’s not hot enough property to phone in the rest of the season. If he decides he wants to go on the 30th jan I can’t see us selling him. He’d be forced to stay and keeping putting a shift in otherwise the clubs won’t want him as he will look a flash in pan.

    Anyway he seems an honest and genuine lad who is grateful for the opportunity we’ve given him. I can’t see him doing anything in a disrespectful way.

    my opinion of him is that if he can get more money elsewhere and wants that money, then he’s earned that move (if the fee is right for us). I’d personally wish him well and move on.
     
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  9. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn’t it be great on Christmas Eve afternoon they announced his new contract. Similar to when KLD was announced a couple of years earlier
     
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  10. John Wick

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    This is it mate, when the Maja saga was going on it was the board rooms fault, this is the exact same thing that's happening and we seem to be sleep walking into it. In all honesty, has his muscle injury been as bad as reported?Footballers careers are short and unfortunately it is about money no matter what people think. Its the same as when people say "If someone came along and offered you double for doing the same job, would you say no?" ofcourse you're not turning that down. Selling Stewart for a couple of million and a player is the business model and we'll except it because its part of the set up as you probably know. The older I'm getting the less I invest in the players, they're here to do a job and that's about it unfortunately. It'll not be long before we're in a similar situation we the likes of Clarke and Roberts ect. Imo ouf modle is keeping the club safe, but as for Premier Leauge football, that's a pipe dream because the "modle" hampers it. So, I'm strapped I for Championship football for the foreseeable. not being negative, its just its mot 15-20 years ago when we were jumping between prem and Championship. We're a young, newly promoted team, after a while we'll hopefully be a fixture in the leauge, but we'll still be young because the buy to sell is the way forward. We won't be spending 20 and 25 million on players like other Championship clubs do and have. Long live the club. Sorry for the waffle.
     
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  11. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Can’t agree with that mate, if you take your time and have the right team you can do what we did before and the mags did before. This team would be lucky to finish bottom <ok>
     
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  12. John Wick

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    This is why unfortunately we can't compete. Teams like Norwich, Sheffield, Burnley, Watford etc are the new yoyo clubs that's are absolutely loaded and able to compete for promotion season after season. Our only hope in the future is to sneek in through the playoffs.
     
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  13. Teessidemackem

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    Look at how much money teams like Norwich and Fulham have generated over the years mate by going up and then straight down again.
    We wont gain financially waiting around mate, and losing our best players to our rivals certainly wont help either if Stewart was to leave us.

    I'm not really sure why some fans want to wait a few years and what we'll actually gain from it. We could stay in this league another 5 years, get promoted and then instantly relegated, so why not just give it a go now and if all fails we'll have made plenty of coin from it.
     
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  14. Teessidemackem

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    That's exactly the point I'm trying to make mate.
     
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  15. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Basically mate, because that sounds just bloody horrible.
     
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    Good. Hoped it was bollocks
     
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    Parachute payments going the journey soon I think according to what I've read for the new EFL deal

    If Rossco goes for 8/10/12 or more then we aren't spending anywhere near that on a replacement. We will be in the market for 'another Rossco' I.e. 0k-750k on an unknown player to replace him.
     
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  18. John Wick

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    I was agreeing bud. Football has changed that much its like there's 3 leauges in each leauge.
     
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  19. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Yes I know you were mate, glad I'm not alone in thinking pi$$ing about in this league longer than we need to is pointless, because either way once we get promoted the chances of relegation will be big, so I'd rather have a go sooner rather than later and at least bring a load of money into the club to have another go the season after and keep getting stronger
     
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    I disagree on the 0-750k bit. The way we are going, I can see the fees paid stepping up incrementally if the progress is steady. 0-750k in League one becomes 2-3 million in the Championship, becomes 4-5 and so on as we get more established.

    The problem there is that you’ve got to chuck money at the team to have a good chance of going up quickly. Get it wrong and the finances start to get out of hand.
     
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