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Off Topic Theresa May - End of Dissent

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  1. Tobes

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    That's absolute piffle mate.

    Govt spending at the point of the Worldwide crash in 2008 was 41% of GDP - it was 40% in 1997 when Blair took office.......

    What the **** have the Pole got to do with anything? The vast majority of the EU migrants were economic migrants who were coming here to work hard and forge a better life for themselves.

    Those 'Poles coming in' et al - make a net contribution to the economy of this country ffs, - £20BN in 2011....

    Farages propoganda has got to you aswell it appears........
     
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  2. BBFs Unpopular View

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    "Those 'Poles coming in' et al - make a net contribution to the economy of this country ffs, - £20BN in 2011"

    Exactly, immigrants only become a "problem" after the government, banks and traders ruin the economy and flogged off state profit capable assets
     
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    But the NHS has suffered, rent have shot up, house prices risen to stupid levels, schools have suffered, wages have suffered, just to make a little extra profit for UKPLC.

    The country is full and we dont need anymore hand car washers, but ££££ would like them as fans as they dont have many <ok>
     
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  4. Tobes

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    The NHS hasn't suffered though, as the economy has been bolstered by £20BN NET. So any increased costs in education, health etc are accounted for in that figure.

    Blaming increased house prices on Eastern Europeans is laughable mate sorry. Net migration runs at about 200,000 per annum or 0.3% of the total population. To blame house and rent price hikes on such a tiny proportion of the total is ridiculous. It's the economics of the far right, stop believing the **** you're being spoon fed by bigoted little Englanders mate ffs.
     
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    So we have NHS problems then, get your head out the sand, stop listening to the BBC
     
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    The NHS issues are **** all to do with migrants you flute, that was the point.
     
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    It has a lot to do with them, we cant cope with what we had, an extra 2 million in 10 years has killed the NHS.

    Take note, I dont have a problem with Poles or anyone else, be we must look after our own first
     
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    Way to miss the point <doh>

    If the increase in migrants has put a strain on the system (which I don't accept, as it's the increase life expectancy and therefore the increase in the number of aged citiizens together with constant advancements in treatments that's the root cause) but accepting that as a numerical 'fact', then the £20BN increase in NET income that those migrants are generating on a yearly basis should be partially used to add additional resource to the NHS infrastructure don't you think?

    Our own btw? What is 'our own'? How long do you have to have lived here and contributed to our soceity to carry that tag? or is it only white Anglo Saxons that it applies to?

    'kin 'ell. <doh>
     
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    The simple maths is, with an ever increasing population those services are going to cost more and more year on year and the government is cutting year on year. 4000 nurses cut since 2010, how does that equate to immigrants straining the services one might wonder.


    Austerity, it's a pretty good correlation between poverty and larger families. More and more poverty generally increases the birth rates. The poorer the UK gets the faster the population multiplies. This forces even more pressure on the NHS and Education and other services in an ever decreasing cycle of cuts bank bailouts and lavish spending on the entire government\military apparatus.

    Labour inherited neoliberalism in 97 when they took over from the tory party and thatchernomics and they didn't change ****. They continued, it's about money. Look at what Blair earns now, labour man eh <doh> He set up his global fifedom while in power then rode off into the sunset to collect millions upon millions and work for dictators.All Labour did in 2010 was hand the reigns back to the Tories.

    Labour also oversaw the inevitable (some say designed) crash as the neoliberal bubble burst, because it always will as nothing inflates forever, yet they think the economy can grow infinitely? ORLY? <laugh>
     
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  10. Jeremy Hillary Boob

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    A 'Dedicated swallower of Fascism', as Billy Bragg aptly coined it.
     
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    Or doctors, dentists, nurses...... oh wait, what was that you said about the NHS?
     
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    Slight difference, skilled and unskilled
     
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    So you're assuming that all of the EU economic migrants were unskilled car washers?

    I went to Poland about 10 years ago, not long after they joined the EU, with the sole purpose of recruiting highly skilled staff. we chose to go over there as there was a massive skills shortage in this country. We recruited some fantastic hard working skilled individuals, who put many of our homegrowns to shame.

    You really do need to go in search of clue on this subject mate.
     
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    Perhaps someone should point out to the utter tool that the person who ruined this country was a Tory and a splitarse one at that. What a ****ing blend <doh>
     
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    Yes some are skilled, but plenty are not, thats the problem, the large amout of them that are not skilled that depress the wages of the Brits.
     
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    What so you're not allowed to be racist? Not sure what you're trying to say here.

    And for any white male to think they are discriminated anywhere is ridiculous. Out of every group we are probably the most well off and least discriminated against in the whole world.
     
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  17. Tobes

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    Again, you're talking absolute tripe.

    The %age of migrant workers in low skilled jobs is 16% of the total, which compares to 15% of the total of British born low skilled workers.

    As for them driving wages down, there's a National minimum wage ffs, and if employers are breaking the law by employing migrants on less than that, then your ire should be directed at them, not at those that they are exploiting.
     
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    We are talking about the UK here, not the world and the only reason we are the least discriminated is because we have bigger guns
     
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    Woo hoo the minimum wage what use is that to anyone when the cost of the average house is over 200K, but our friends from over the sea live 10 to a house making it worth there while and even send child benefits back home when they don't have kids living in the UK.
     
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  20. Tobes

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    The issue of a living wage is a separate issue to the effect of economic migrants on our society, which is what we've been discussing ffs.

    The rest of that post is just casual racism and Daily Mail'esque sensationalism.
     
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