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There is no case for keeping Unai Emery anymore

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by NLDISRED, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    I'm so fun I wear a t-shirt saying 'I'm fun' on it
     
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    I have to be honest, I was surprised when they picked him. My only question is exactly what it was when we replaced Wenger. Who do you replace him with?

    There really isn't an obvious candidate. Right now, you might think taking a punt on Freddy, Bergkamp or another ex-gunner would be our best bet, but they are not high success chance option, if you look at ex-players managing generally.

    I don't like the way we are playing. I'm not a huge fan of some of the players that people here like, such as Torreira, Pepe and Socratis, and I do like some of the players he is leaving out like Ozil. But I am also a pragmatist, so I have the same issue I had when everyone was shouting for Wenger to leave. Getting rid of a Manager is only half the job, and it is the easy half.

    I'd be a lot happier if these posts said - "Bring in …" with a suggestion. Getting rid of a manager isn't the problem.
     
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  3. BrunelGooner

    BrunelGooner Well-Known Member

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    6 wins in 17 games. GD is 0. Bottled 2 goals lead twice already this season. Another shocking display against a side who barely invested this Summer. No tactics, no man-management, no motivation. He is doing worse with a better squad.

    Get him OUT.
     
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  4. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    I hate Mourinho. But the fact I'm actually WANTING him to replace Emery is making me realise how bad I must think Emery is. Unai is making me want Jose. And just for that he can **** off.
     
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    Mourinho is an absolute **** of the highest order and I wouldn’t want him at Arsenal. But with how things are right now I’d give him a job until the end of the season!

    Tbh I’d sack Emery and ask Wenger to come back until the end of the season as caretaker manager. He knows the players and club, wouldn’t need a settling in period and his ****test is better than Emery. Would at least steady the ship ready for a new Manager at the end of the season.

    If Emery wants to stay he’s going to have to make some dramatic improvements and I just don’t see it happening. We are messing up in so many games, have no style, he makes strange decisions with players and we just look poor even when we win. The squad is better than the position we are in and if he isn’t going to get more from them then we need someone who can.

    I hope the club are assessing the options and not just blindly backing Emery because it’s cheaper to let him go at the end of the season when his contract runs out...
     
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  6. cini65

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    Get in Vieira. Then United to appoint Keane. Then bring back the United Arsenal battles. Bosh.
     
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    Well the only case for keeping Emery at this point is we still could make the top four this Season.

    That's hardly a compelling argument.
     
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  8. The Ides of March

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    John Terry, to at least organise the defence!!! How about him as a long term appointment|? Or Gerrard if Rangers confound the critics and win the Scottish PL ahead of the better skilled Celtic side.. Besides which, Gerrard gets Rangers good results in Europe against sides such as Porto who have far more ability.
     
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    No - come on. Thats not going to be an improvement. We dont need some retired pro with NO high level mangement experienced.

    Allegri, DeBoer, Simeone, Nagelsmann, ..maybe Mourinho.
     
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    £6m to sack Emery. £40m+ to miss out on CL football. Basic maths. They'd better not let pride get in the way of doing the right thing.
     
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    Like Lampard you mean? Or Guardiola before he started at Barca? Or Poch at Spurs?
     
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  12. Mantis

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    No longer a question of if.

    Do we give him until Xmas? Or the end of the season?

    Either way, we're not improving. Players are unhappy, performances and tactics are confusing and he's unable to manage the Ozil and Xhaka situations with any degree of integrity. Its not his fault solely that we find ourselves in this position, but he has to shoulder a large portion of the blame. He needs to go. He's done.
     
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    Can’t see us sacking him.

    will probably be the end of the season upon expiration of his contract. If/when we don’t qualify for next seasons Champions League.
     
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    Bring back Wenger, I've heard it all now <laugh>
     
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    You're assuming that sacking Emery is going to get us CL football though.

    If we were to sack Emery tomorrow, who would we appoint that would guarantee CL football ?
     
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    There is one scenario that I would entertain at the moment, and that is replacing Emery with Ljungberg until the end of the season with a guarantee that we'd bring either Allegri or Simeone in during the summer.
     
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    PIskie, nothing in life is ever a guarantee, irrespective of who we appoint. However, we don't need to wait until the end of the season to know that we aren't going anywhere under Emery. I sound like a broken record, but we are performing worse with better players. A major part of that is down to the decisions and the tactics communicated from the manager to the team.

    After the new manager 'bounce' we had for a few months last season, look at how we've performed from last December to now. What is it that you're seeing that makes you think he deserves time?

    In years gone by, managers would have been given more time sure. Football is different now, the pressure is different and the expectations from all stakeholders is a lot higher.

    I find it hard to believe any one of Ten Haag, Nagelsmann or Allegri wouldn't do a better job than our current manager.
     
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    Well then the £6m v £40m equation is meaningless unless it's a guarantee.

    If we could get Allegri then I would go for it. The other two would be as big a risk as Emery.
     
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  19. gooner4ever

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    If there are alternative options then now, as he looks close to losing the dressing room, and how the **** can we not play Ozil
     
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    We need Ozil. No question. I slated him after the EL final, but in retrospect, it was not solely his fault that we lost that. There were other, deeper issues. Emery has managed to alienate both the dressing room and the fanbase. He's skating extremely close to the edge and it's only a matter of time before he falls over it.
     
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