Americans treating ALL English fans poorly. Should be no animosity to any Club in The English League Man Utd or other imo.
Boris says what he thinks people want him to say. He didn’t mean it, most politicians don’t. In fact I very much doubt he could legislate for it. If people want something then they have to be responsible for getting it. Protests, decisions on where they spend their money, who they vote for, which team they support etc. We, collectively, can change things, if enough of us want to. Normally not enough can be arsed. TWT if things have changed
Yeah. Protests are meant to be inconvenient. A protest which adheres to rules and regulations is a **** protest. What good is a protest if it conforms to a standard accepted by the people being protested against? Preventing televised games affects the Glazers’ bottom line. Like I said, Sky whipped up the ESL protests then started pearl-clutching when fans protested in an ‘unsavoury’ manner that they didn’t approve of. Preventing the Utd-Liverpool game ruined their ‘Super Sunday’ and affected their bottom line. When some pundits refused to toe the the line and opposed the presenter’s narrative, they wrapped things up quickly.
No one has ever said that fan ownership would be easy. But when fans are critical and snipe at those who try to do things, it is actually harder. By the way, supporters in the KC, booed the protests during the games. If you asked the majority of City supporters, they would have said that they support the anti Allam protests, but not during a game. I supported that view myself.
It's not only the top six affected, it goes all the way down to Park Football. The Pyramid stretches out a long way in many directions.
“You can protest but not during a game, when it would be most effective, because it’s inconvenient to me” Exact sort of attitude I’m referring to.
Wrecking the posts was a huge own goal. The Glazers will now probably ban all fans. Revenue from gate receipts is a drop in the ocean when compared to tv, broadcasting and image rights. Not that I care a jot about the fate of the seedy six!
It is my view that protesting during the game actually loses support for the cause, rather than builds it. If you want to protest, it has to be effective and whilst it makes headlines, protest during a game divides the supporter base. That’s the reason why the I don’t believe in it. I support the team not the owners and when the game is on, that is why I am there.
“Don’t go on strike during the week, it will be divisive to the other workers. Go on strike on Sunday when we’re closed.”
Its okay they're outside exercising at a park / similar outdoor - good to see young's un's not sat indoors on their Gameboys and Commodore 64's ...
The fact is that not one protest that stopped a game actually did anything other than stop the game and divide supporters. Not one protest, before during or after a game actually brought the support together did it. So you prove to me how effective the game stopping protests were and I will say I am wrong and you are right. Go on, prove me wrong with facts and not wishy washy sound bites.
10,000 Liverpool fans walked out at the 77th minute in protest of ticket prices. The owners caved and reduced the ticket prices after.
The tennis balls on the pitch at Bolton away in 1998 were popular, non violent and largely effective in getting rid of David Lloyd.